RobEG
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Mar 31, 2023 19:35:59 GMT
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Post by RobEG on Mar 31, 2023 19:35:59 GMT
Not sure if this game is for me to be honest. It’s obviously a good game but don’t think I have the time or patience for it at the moment. Might be one to come back to later.
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Mar 31, 2023 19:41:22 GMT
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Post by Frog on Mar 31, 2023 19:41:22 GMT
You gave it a go. There are loads of games like that for me that everyone raves about and I just don't see what the fuss is about.
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RobEG
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Mar 31, 2023 19:48:46 GMT
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Post by RobEG on Mar 31, 2023 19:48:46 GMT
It probably would click eventually but I’m kind of just running around not really sure where I’m going or what I’m doing. Die then back to square one. The RL formula just isn’t for me I don’t think. I might come back to it if I’m in the mood though.
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Mar 31, 2023 20:09:41 GMT
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Post by gibroon on Mar 31, 2023 20:09:41 GMT
I must admit I died so many times in the first zone and boss I felt a bit like you Rob. Also had to contend with no save during a run.
Got over the hump though and it is really good when you get into the groove.
Probably helped there wasn't much on ps5 at the time.
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RobEG
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Post by RobEG on Mar 31, 2023 20:28:10 GMT
It’s probably me to be fair. By the time I get a chance to get on it’s usually 8:30 - 9 and I’m bloody knackered. I’ve really struggled to get into anything. The only games I’ve completed recently are Stray and Toem as they were just easy to pick up, play and progress. I guess I’m just getting old
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Post by wunty on Mar 31, 2023 21:17:23 GMT
I know what you mean man. You’ve definitely got to be in the mood for it and if it isn’t clicking there is no point forcing it.
You old git.
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Post by monkman5000 on Mar 31, 2023 21:29:53 GMT
I banged my head against it long enough to reach level 3, but I never felt like I was any good at it and that's why I ultimately stopped playing it. I appreciate what a good game it is but I wish I was better at it.
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Post by killerbee on Mar 31, 2023 22:01:07 GMT
Glad you liked Toem! The first level of Returnal is tough but persistence and practice helps. The Carbine is definitely a good choice if you can get a good drop at proficiency level 4-5, but don’t rule out the pistol either. Check the stat allocations and go for ones that will boost dps. Also practice the active reload - it makes a big difference. You’ll be better prepared for the Boss if you take the time to do most of the level, simply because it’ll allow you to level up your weapon proficiency and get a more powerful gun. There’s always a red weapon drop right before the boss room so you’ll get a chance to grab something that’s as good as it’ll get. During the rest of the level, it’s worth trying to use different guns to unlock and level up the various weapon perks. The perks are permanent unlocks and a good roll can make a big difference. Don’t forget about the alt fire too - use it regularly! An obvious one, but try not to get hit early on. If you’re on max health, the green pickups extend your health bar instead of just healing you. Don’t be afraid of trying out different Parasites. The negative effects sound bad but are usually manageable and the positives are often well worth it. Spend Ether on the slot machine thing near your ship - you’ll gradually unlock a host of useful items that then become potential drops. Don’t worry about diluting the loot pool - there are loads of them. Grab as much of the yellow obolite currency as you can and spend it at the shop. If there’s an Astronaut for sale, get that first and grab the large health pack second. If you’re lucky enough to get both on the same run, you’ve practically got three times the health bar to use against the boss. There’s also a Parasite that can resurrect you too. If you can afford it, the machine for extending your health bar is also worth it. I often played as far as the shop and then decided whether this was a worthwhile boss run or not, based on whether I could get an Astronaut and large health pack. You can always warp back there from later in the level if they’re available but you can’t quite afford them yet. If the loot on offer was crap, I could start over and save a bit of time. Sorry, long post! It’s punishing to begin with but such a good game that only gets better as you progress.
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RobEG
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Post by RobEG on Apr 1, 2023 6:38:24 GMT
killerbeeYeah I liked Toem, nice little game. Appreciate the post but that’s kind of my point. So much to think about it was a bit overwhelming to learn it all. I’ve not given up completely, I think I’d just need a bit of free time to dedicate to it. It’s why I stopped on Elden Ring too. Makes me a bit sad really that I can’t seem to get the enthusiasm to continue these types of games anymore
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Post by gibroon on Apr 1, 2023 7:19:27 GMT
Sounds like you need to find some chill games to play.
Not sure what it is called but there's a power hose game that I've heard is very good.
I loved Stray as well as you could take it at your own pace apart from a few areas and had simple controls.
As far as advice for returnal, I would switch autorun on. Takes a little while to get used to but it pays to always be on the move. Unless you are locked in a room, feel free just to leg it passed everything, especially if you are looking for a gun you feel comfortable with.
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RobEG
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Apr 1, 2023 8:18:52 GMT
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Post by RobEG on Apr 1, 2023 8:18:52 GMT
I did turn on auto run last night.
Probably not a bad shout on running through rooms to be fair. I’ll get back on it if the mood takes me.
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Post by neems on Apr 1, 2023 9:27:48 GMT
If it helps any, I've beaten Returnal four times and I still find the first boss the hardest. Like your man upstairs said what you really need is the Astronaut, assuming you've unlocked it (you need to have started exploring a certain incongruous location).
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RobEG
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Apr 1, 2023 9:51:25 GMT
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Post by RobEG on Apr 1, 2023 9:51:25 GMT
I’ve seen it, and been in that location once. I’ve only actually made it to the boss once to be fair. Struggling enough generally
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Post by neems on Apr 1, 2023 12:58:09 GMT
There's always co-op of course.
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RobEG
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Apr 1, 2023 13:36:13 GMT
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Post by RobEG on Apr 1, 2023 13:36:13 GMT
Despite my general feeling towards RL I thought I’d give Deathloop a go. I like that it feels a bit more structured to be honest.
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wunty
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Apr 1, 2023 14:16:30 GMT
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Post by wunty on Apr 1, 2023 14:16:30 GMT
Yeah deathloop definitely has structure. It’s actually quite a linear game at heart.
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RobEG
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Apr 1, 2023 14:23:02 GMT
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Post by RobEG on Apr 1, 2023 14:23:02 GMT
I feel it might be a bit more suited to me be honest. Only done the first couple of ‘days’ but I quite like the ‘get to point a and back’ loop so far. It’s a bit slower paced which suits me better I think.
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Apr 1, 2023 14:31:27 GMT
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Post by Vandelay on Apr 1, 2023 14:31:27 GMT
I would say Deathloop isn't really a Rogue-like/lite. It is closer to a regular linear shooter with a timeloop framing device, mixed with Arkane's usual immersive sim style.
I enjoyed it enough when playing back when it came out on PS5. I should really give it a go on PC now it is on Game Pass though. I really am terrible at FPS games with a pad and I'm sure I would have enjoyed it much with mouse and keyboard.
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RobEG
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Post by RobEG on Apr 1, 2023 14:35:57 GMT
I would say Deathloop isn't really a Rogue-like/lite. It is closer to a regular linear shooter with a timeloop framing device, mixed with Arkane's usual immersive sim style. I think that might be why it’s clicking a bit more.
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Apr 14, 2023 18:31:03 GMT
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Post by Tomo on Apr 14, 2023 18:31:03 GMT
This fucking game. Such a dogshit PC port. I finally come back to it after a hiatus and I've spent the last hour wrestling with it to try and get 4K resolution working. It insists on running at 1080p even if you set to 4K native. Spent ages trying to sort it, but it either doesn't changed when you tell it to, other gets confused and thinks I have an ultrawide living room telly. How is this still a thing in this day and age. Ffs.
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Sept 4, 2023 12:57:01 GMT
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Post by Nanocrystal on Sept 4, 2023 12:57:01 GMT
Just started this (on PS5). Got to the first boss's 3rd phase on my first go, thanks to the astronaut I found. Needless to say, on all subsequent attempts I've barely made it to his 2nd phase. I'm gonna have to get better at dodging.
That currency that enemies drop doesn't hang around for long, does it?
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Sept 5, 2023 22:30:01 GMT
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Post by Nanocrystal on Sept 5, 2023 22:30:01 GMT
Wow, turning on auto-run makes a huge difference. Much easier to evade enemies and pick up the currency they drop. Feels like it should have been the default setting. Managed to make it to the second biome last night, which seems a lot more open with more room to dodge/run away.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Sept 10, 2023 3:05:45 GMT
Made it to biome 4! Managed to beat boss 3 on my first attempt (was fairly well buffed up having rinsed the first three biomes). Epic stuff!
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Sept 13, 2023 16:39:26 GMT
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Post by rajin on Sept 13, 2023 16:39:26 GMT
Hows coop in this game? I might play it with my brother depending on how well it fits.
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Post by Ulythium on Sept 13, 2023 16:52:58 GMT
rajinPretty good, from what I hear.
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Sept 13, 2023 21:44:52 GMT
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Post by Nanocrystal on Sept 13, 2023 21:44:52 GMT
I've made it to the final biome. Haven't yet beaten the final boss, but to be honest I'm in no hurry to as I'm loving the game so much I don't want it to end! Really enjoying levelling up my weapon traits and unlocking new items, and am now confident enough to have a crack at the challenge rooms and avenging dead players.
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Mar 29, 2024 23:26:29 GMT
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Post by Tomo on Mar 29, 2024 23:26:29 GMT
I resumed this after a long hiatus. Game is good. Once I beat Phrike, I went on an amazing run doing the next 2 bosses first time. Currently at Echoing Ruins and getting my arse kicked though. I got to the boss door on my first run but died stupidly trying to get some more buffs. Last 3 runs I have died either v unfairly or stupidly. Game can be cruel mistress at times.
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Apr 2, 2024 13:30:59 GMT
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Post by dfawkes on Apr 2, 2024 13:30:59 GMT
I still find Phrike harder than any other boss. I've played enough that from the second biome onwards, pretty much any gun that drops fires out enough ridiculous extra nonsense to make bosses relatively easy. Phrike is so early the best I can do is a mildly silly weapon, meaning I have to make up for it with skill and that's a big ask.
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Post by Tomo on Apr 2, 2024 16:14:34 GMT
Sneaky, not seen you around for while dfawkes! Good to see you. I have actually binned off Returnal now! Too much wasting my life running through Biome 4 just to die immediately in Biome 5. So that's that then.
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Apr 2, 2024 20:42:14 GMT
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Post by Nanocrystal on Apr 2, 2024 20:42:14 GMT
By the time you get to biome 5 you should be rocking a souped up hollowseeker or pylon driver, at which point you barely have to aim any more, just keep that trigger pulled and watch the enemies melt while you focus on dodging.
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