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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 18:20:36 GMT
Oh.../quick google
What does security level do in System Shock?
Cameras and computer nodes form 'level security', of which the main effect in-game is to lock certain doors, and it's also tied in to the enemy respawn system; get level security to 0 and no more respawns
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Post by malek86 on Jun 19, 2024 18:27:17 GMT
Oh.../quick google What does security level do in System Shock? Cameras and computer nodes form 'level security', of which the main effect in-game is to lock certain doors, and it's also tied in to the enemy respawn system; get level security to 0 and no more respawns Well, that's news for me. Maybe it's a remake thing. I'm fairly sure in the original game I still got some enemy respawns in 0% areas even after returning to them.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 22:14:59 GMT
Oh.../quick google What does security level do in System Shock? Cameras and computer nodes form 'level security', of which the main effect in-game is to lock certain doors, and it's also tied in to the enemy respawn system; get level security to 0 and no more respawns Well, that's news for me. Maybe it's a remake thing. I'm fairly sure in the original game I still got some enemy respawns in 0% areas even after returning to them. I honestly can't remember. It's like I'm an amnesiac when I come in this thread
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Post by Duffking on Jun 19, 2024 22:32:38 GMT
Yeah originally I wrote it stops enemy spawns, but the I googled and wasn't sure. I feel like it does though. Or at least massively reduces them.
In some areas it also opens some special doors.
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Post by malek86 on Jun 19, 2024 22:37:31 GMT
I just had two drones attack me while I was returning to the Medical elevator from the healing station, and security was at 0%, so it can't be that. I do agree it probably reduces respawn though. And yeah, it mostly opens specific doors or enables switches. I'm pretty sure, for example, some healing station door switch in a later level can only be pressed if security is low enough.
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Jun 19, 2024 23:46:40 GMT
Having a major issue with reload and interact being on the same button, I never have any fing batteries!! Beta Grove was a right 'mare! Had to youtube the area so I could go straight to the charger and scout from there. Definitely this. Annoying problem with batteries for me too. I need to find more consistent stash boxes as have been leaving big guns like grenade launchers and a laser rifle (I think) where I found them. Got confused for a while as missed one of the tasks on the Reactor that gated progress but onto Executive now. Don't think I ever got around to playing the original this far (shamefully). Took me ages to figure out how to activate protection suit too. Enjoying it though.
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Post by Day on Jun 20, 2024 8:29:32 GMT
Yup, and me, took me an embarrassing amount of time to work out how to activate it... sounds so obvious now, but I didn’t realise you could move the cursor outside of the central ui container!
Edit: then the button to actually activate it didnt seem to work so maybe it was a bug, dunno.. orrrr.... it was SHODAN, spooky!!!! ;-)
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Post by quadfather on Jun 20, 2024 18:22:32 GMT
Am I right in saying dropping the level security to zero stops the respawning? Also, meant to ask this earlier, what difficulty have you got it set on?
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Post by wunty on Jun 20, 2024 19:52:55 GMT
Err medium everything. I think. All 2s.
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Post by wunty on Jun 21, 2024 9:02:49 GMT
Fuck yes. My little session this morning bore some fruit. Found the med bay in Engineering, with a healing station and cargo lift to boot! Also found the security nodes so blew the shit out of them. Time to start turning the fucking tables. Main area is rammed with cyborgs but just picked my autorifle back up with a couple of hundred penetrating rounds so it's time to go ham on the sinister bastards.
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Post by wunty on Jun 21, 2024 9:03:32 GMT
The difficulty in this is nuts. It feels so good though, like you're genuinely fighting back against overwhelming odds.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 21, 2024 11:39:41 GMT
I'm looking forward to getting back on this again. I've decided I'm going to stick it out and complete it again. Its about time.
And yeah, I do remember a point just after the mid section of the game where you can crack your knuckles and go, right you bastards, have some of this
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Post by wunty on Jun 21, 2024 12:10:31 GMT
I'm adamant I'm going to see it through.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 21, 2024 13:07:16 GMT
I'm adamant I'm going to see it through. Now you've committed to it, you'd better stand and deliver!
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Post by quadfather on Jun 22, 2024 14:19:16 GMT
Bloody research! Those hoppers are fucking me up. I'm starting to get low on ammo and the energy recharge is miles away, but I'm determined to clear this area goddammit. I'll wrench the fuckers to death if necessary
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Post by malek86 on Jun 23, 2024 5:35:57 GMT
Bloody research! Those hoppers are fucking me up. I'm starting to get low on ammo and the energy recharge is miles away, but I'm determined to clear this area goddammit. I'll wrench the fuckers to death if necessary Don't be afraid of making the trip back to Medical when you need it. A little extra walking will go a long way towards saving you supplies for later.
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Post by Destria on Jun 23, 2024 6:55:41 GMT
There’s also a way to stop the hopper respawning on that level
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 7:30:31 GMT
Bloody research! Those hoppers are fucking me up. I'm starting to get low on ammo and the energy recharge is miles away, but I'm determined to clear this area goddammit. I'll wrench the fuckers to death if necessary Don't be afraid of making the trip back to Medical when you need it. A little extra walking will go a long way towards saving you supplies for later. Yeah I could do that I guess. I made a fair bit of progress in the end!
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 7:31:02 GMT
There’s also a way to stop the hopper respawning on that level Yeah I was thinking about that, but I can't remember the details
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 11:38:18 GMT
Right, so I wasn't going insane last night.
Playing it today and I've noticed that sometimes when you're trying to interact with a dead body to loot it, sometimes, if you haven't got the angle just right, it will reload your current weapon instead. This is a problem if you have an energy weapon selected as it'll automatically use a battery, no matter what your energy is on, potentially wasting it.
Thing is, in the menu, there is no actual button mapped to reload, so what the fuck?
Also, I've noticed something else, if you have the inventory open and you press R2, it randomly makes an item disappear in your inventory. Doesn't always do it but I've just tested it (sober) and it definitely did it once or twice.
Bit odd, but just a heads up.
And I've just found the shotgun. Come on then, you cunts
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 12:52:47 GMT
Ah that's better. A couple of hours today with intent and I've almost finished research now. Just a couple of things to mop up.
Is it engineering next? Thats the card I've just got and I think most locked doors left on research now need the science card so guess that will be later.
/can't remember shit.
/will probably go through ss2 again after this.
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Post by wunty on Jun 23, 2024 18:27:43 GMT
Have you done executive?
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Post by malek86 on Jun 23, 2024 19:25:54 GMT
I must be forgetting things with age. Where do you find the code for the keypad door in the southern section of Research?
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 20:39:04 GMT
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 20:40:09 GMT
I must be forgetting things with age. Where do you find the code for the keypad door in the southern section of Research? The one that's in the sort of square that you cant get inside? I've still not unlocked the Southern one. Wunty may be able to help as he's further on
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Post by malek86 on Jun 23, 2024 22:17:38 GMT
I've cleared out all of Storage and Flight Deck today. Yeah, I know it wasn't quite time just yet, but it's nice to have a paved road for later. The upgraded Sparqbeam is a beast.
Right, enough getting sidetracked, time to deal with Executive. Oh boy.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 22:40:35 GMT
I've done research now and have choices are reactor or maintenence. I've got a feeling reactor will be short lived so maintenance it is!
It's mental how good this game is.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 23, 2024 22:41:48 GMT
I've cleared out all of Storage and Flight Deck today. Yeah, I know it wasn't quite time just yet, but it's nice to have a paved road for later. The upgraded Sparqbeam is a beast. Right, enough getting sidetracked, time to deal with Executive. Oh boy. When you say upgraded, do you mean the cool down or something else?
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Post by malek86 on Jun 24, 2024 5:25:05 GMT
I've cleared out all of Storage and Flight Deck today. Yeah, I know it wasn't quite time just yet, but it's nice to have a paved road for later. The upgraded Sparqbeam is a beast. Right, enough getting sidetracked, time to deal with Executive. Oh boy. When you say upgraded, do you mean the cool down or something else? Some weapons have more than one modkit. For the Sparqbeam, you can find one that increases damage. At medium energy usage, it kills a Sec-1 bot in four hits, and only uses one energy tack per shot. Good times. The Laser Rapier is much more efficient if you are closer, but that doesn't happen too often.
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Post by wunty on Jun 24, 2024 7:21:54 GMT
Laser Rapier and Berserk patch is still my go to for killing absolutely anything incredibly quickly.
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