JonFE
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Post by JonFE on Nov 16, 2023 14:54:14 GMT
Even so, this is his (and the rest of the inverted-Y lot, including me) decision to make, not anyone else's... People are set in their ways like they have every right to do so, why does it bother you?
I'm sorry, but this is obligatory... The joke Your head  It's clearly bothering wunty, so...
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 16, 2023 14:56:16 GMT
wunty likes being bothered
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 16, 2023 14:57:23 GMT
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 16, 2023 14:58:54 GMT
Old age mate
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wunty
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Post by wunty on Nov 16, 2023 15:00:02 GMT
I'm sorry, but this is obligatory... The joke Your head It's clearly bothering wunty, so...
It’s not now. I’m fine. I’ve inverted my attitude. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 16, 2023 15:17:45 GMT
It's clearly bothering wunty, so...
It’s not now. I’m fine. I’ve inverted my attitude. Is it an ɐʇʇıʇnpǝ now? /not helping |
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Post by dangerousdave on Nov 16, 2023 15:31:29 GMT
What’s an edutitta?
Sounds like a sexy Spanish teacher.
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cubby
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Post by cubby on Nov 16, 2023 15:33:16 GMT
Hmm, autorotate is sure not helping me read that.
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zagibu
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Post by zagibu on Nov 16, 2023 15:45:39 GMT
Why is this something that you even have a problem with? I'm just trying to cure you of your sinful invertedness. Feel free to live your life as you want, but you will regret it when the reckoning's due. And stay away from my kids! |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 16, 2023 15:46:28 GMT
Hmm, autorotate is sure not helping me read that. It's wunty's inverted attitude |
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Post by deekyfun on Nov 16, 2023 16:09:50 GMT
Basically, I'm reading this as Wunty is young (inverted) Matt Damon, and Zagibu is inverted Robin Williams, telling him over and over 'its your fault'.
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Post by deekyfun on Nov 16, 2023 16:10:38 GMT
Also, Blood Bowl 3 is still the most disappointing game.
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Post by dangerousdave on Nov 16, 2023 16:16:44 GMT
No mention of City Skylines 2 or Kerbal Space Program 2.
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Post by deekyfun on Nov 16, 2023 16:20:15 GMT
Cities Skylines 2 is so recent it may not have have registered enough yet. I have it but I'm too scared to install it.
KSP2 seems a good shout, but part of me wonders if there was a general assumption it was going to be a mess which factors into the impact here.
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zagibu
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Post by zagibu on Nov 16, 2023 16:41:07 GMT
KSP2 was mentioned on page 1.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Nov 16, 2023 19:42:29 GMT
So the inverted Y thing, I push the stick forward for up (as I recall is generally the default setting for most games) is this game this way or the other way round?
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Youthist
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Post by Youthist on Nov 16, 2023 19:45:57 GMT
The most disappointing game of 198…6? Was when Elite had to scrap the Scooby Doo cartoon game for the Spectrum that looked like something from the future at the time. Then a year later we got some garbage platformer instead.
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Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 16, 2023 19:49:19 GMT
I never invert. In fact, I’m so verted, I switch plane controls in GTA to the normal walking about scheme
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zagibu
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Post by zagibu on Nov 16, 2023 20:52:43 GMT
So the inverted Y thing, I push the stick forward for up (as I recall is generally the default setting for most games) is this game this way or the other way round? No, inverted is like jet fighter controls, you pull towards you to go up and push away from you do go down. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 16, 2023 20:59:54 GMT
I never invert. In fact, I’m so verted, I switch plane controls in GTA to the normal walking about scheme This is me. I feel no shame. My shame was acquired in an aggressive acquisition 20 years ago and sold to a venture capitalist. |
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Nov 16, 2023 21:07:01 GMT
So the inverted Y thing, I push the stick forward for up (as I recall is generally the default setting for most games) is this game this way or the other way round? No, inverted is like jet fighter controls, you pull towards you to go up and push away from you do go down. So out of the box, this game is push the stick away from you for up? Not (trying to be) being awkward here, just trying to understand. I've never ever given much thought to it as I've just used the stock controls on 98% of games I've ever played. |
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Post by wunty on Nov 16, 2023 21:18:19 GMT
I'm inverted, and so is my wife.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 16, 2023 21:28:35 GMT
Same, every time someone says "oh it only take a few minutes to change over" no, I've been playing games like this since the days of the first 3D games were ever created, my brain is hard wired to inverting Y, no matter how many times people say it's easy I say it's not. Same here! The only game I recall I actually played to the end without an invert-Y axis option was the original Beyond Good and Evil back on the Xbox and I struggled every single moment of it, especially with that photo mode... Tried recently the remaster (which still lacks an option) and couldn't pass the opening stage... Did you at least find it easier during the bit at the end where the game reverses the controls? |
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JonFE
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Post by JonFE on Nov 16, 2023 21:52:58 GMT
Same here! The only game I recall I actually played to the end without an invert-Y axis option was the original Beyond Good and Evil back on the Xbox and I struggled every single moment of it, especially with that photo mode... Tried recently the remaster (which still lacks an option) and couldn't pass the opening stage... Did you at least find it easier during the bit at the end where the game reverses the controls? That bit has also left-to-right inverted, no?
No, not really!!! 
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 16, 2023 21:55:03 GMT
Disappointed by the prevalence of invertophobia on FG. I thought we were better than that
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Nov 16, 2023 22:07:15 GMT
The way I'm sure inverted people remember is by picturing themselves grabbing someone's hair and pulling their head back (like an analogue stick), so that they can stick the knife in more easily.
Because that's a daily activity for them.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 16, 2023 22:26:26 GMT
There's probably also a close correlation between Y inverters and stand up wipers.
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JonFE
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Post by JonFE on Nov 16, 2023 22:33:55 GMT
How would you know?!?
/glances over his shoulder...
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Post by deekyfun on Nov 16, 2023 22:41:05 GMT
Inverting on the Y is for wimps. Real men invert X.
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zagibu
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Post by zagibu on Nov 16, 2023 22:42:41 GMT
So out of the box, this game is push the stick away from you for up? Not (trying to be) being awkward here, just trying to understand. I've never ever given much thought to it as I've just used the stock controls on 98% of games I've ever played. Yes, this is non-inverted. Forward = Up. Basically it depends on which plane you put your controller. If you imagine that your controller lies on the xy plane (like the floor), then it makes sense for forward to be down, because the stick is basically your neck. If you imagine that your controller lies in the xz plane (like a door for example), then forward for up makes more sense.
But really it probably depends on which game(s) you started with. In the beginning of FPS games, inverted Y was much more popular than it is now. Like I said, I also played inverted at the start and for a bit more than 20 years. But less than 10 years ago I switched, because I played a game where you couldn't invert. But it's not difficult for me to change back. In many games, I even use both, for example for flying a starship, it's inverted, and for travelling on foot, it's non-inverted.
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