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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 20, 2022 15:31:18 GMT
We are not far off PC cases being too small for these cards and needing a steel bar for that GPU sag.
Looks like they've binned the 70 series of cards with the 12gb version and it just doesn't look like great value for money when you compare the 3000 series.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 20, 2022 15:34:34 GMT
My case might be too small. I only just squeezed my 3080 suprim in with about 8mm spare. Had to swap to a slimline fan on the front to get it in there
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 20, 2022 15:35:32 GMT
The Euro pricing is 1,999 for a 4090.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 20, 2022 15:36:10 GMT
The Euro pricing is 1,999 for a 4090. OUCH! |
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 20, 2022 15:38:20 GMT
RTX 4080 (16GB) Starting at £1,269.00
RTX 4080 (12GB) Starting at £949.00
Oh, Jensen.
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 20, 2022 15:39:24 GMT
DLSS 3 is also 4000 series exclusive which sucks.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 20, 2022 16:11:27 GMT
RTX 4080 (16GB) Starting at £1,269.00 RTX 4080 (12GB) Starting at £949.00 Oh, Jensen. 16gb version it is then ... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 16:14:46 GMT
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I'll stick to my laptop then. Every time I think "this is the year I build a new desktop," Jensen says "lolno."
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Post by paulyboy81 on Sept 20, 2022 16:16:55 GMT
Just reminiscing about when our VooDoo 1 card cost something like £79.99 in GAME, haha.
Actually thinking about it, even when I went crazy trying to do justice to Crysis in 2007 I think my 8800 GTX only cost something like £329'ish, that was the absolute bollocks back then.
Prices now though...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 16:32:06 GMT
CNBC is on the office TV and they're talking about the new GPU announcements and nvidia's fallen stock market value. But also they're clowning them, calling nvidia a bit a cult (not entirely inaccurate) and clowning Jensen's motorcycle jackets.
Seems unprofessional for a financial network but I still giggled.
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Post by uiruki on Sept 20, 2022 17:05:13 GMT
Remember that the 12gb 4080 is what was originally rumoured to be a 4070. It is a significantly less powerful card on top of the smaller frame buffer.
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 20, 2022 17:56:17 GMT
The AIB cards look like they need planning permission to install.
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Post by Tomo on Sept 20, 2022 18:33:29 GMT
Ahahahahahaha those prices. Fucken hell. What cost of living crisis.
I paid an eye watering 650 for my 3080 and thought I was a fucking moron for doing so then.
Guess it might hold its value for longer with this price gouging.
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Post by OnlyJoeKing on Sept 20, 2022 20:41:45 GMT
£650 seems a great price for a 3080 in hindsight!
But yeah, I paid that too after paying like £450 for a Vega 64, and that seemed a lot at the time. Though being able to sell it for like £600 certainly took the edge off the 3080 price!
Now I'm wondering how much I'd get for my 3080, whether it'd be worth dropping a grand on a 4080 at 3440x1440...
Perhaps the sensible move here is to just skip a gen. But in 2 years time we'd get less for a 3080, so I guess the question is really what price you'd pay for ~double the performance for the next 2 years.
I'm tempted tbh
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Post by Tomo on Sept 20, 2022 20:57:33 GMT
Skipping personally. 3080 is more than capable of driving my mahoosive monitor and those prices are royally taking the piss.
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 20, 2022 20:58:21 GMT
Thingis that Jensen's double the performance is based on DLSS 3 and I guess that's the reason why he didn't say anything else. Early opinions point to a fairly modest update for something so ludicrously expensive - partly due to TSMC .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 21:03:24 GMT
Yeah, they always use that slick speak to make their cards look more
impressive than they are. Like I remember in the PS4 days they'd talk about their cards having double a console's power, and the base of comparison they'd actually use was an Xbox 360.
Often their refreshes really equate to a 10-15fps upgrade gen on gen.
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Post by Frog on Sept 20, 2022 21:04:49 GMT
They key thing is to completely ignore nvidias bullshit they announce on unveiling day and wait and see some proper testing.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 21, 2022 6:09:22 GMT
God damnit, why did he have to say 2X performance in flight sim.
I like flight sim.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 21, 2022 9:13:18 GMT
Wonder if I could actually turn rtx on in dying light and still keep ultra wide high FPS?
I mean, it looks the bollocks but there was no way was I sticking with the drop from 100+FPS down to 30-50 for some fancy lighting
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Post by OnlyJoeKing on Sept 21, 2022 16:55:30 GMT
I mostly play Total Warhammer 3, so thought I'd benchmark it at super low res, try to see how much a new gpu could help by testing how cpu limited I am by my 5800X. Presumably quite limited, I thought. Well.
At 3440x1440, mostly ultra/high -
Battle benchmark: 78.4 average fps
Campaign: 64.8 fps
At 1024x768 and 50% res scale - a blurry mess -
Battle: 201.7 fps
Campaign: 151.9 fps
200 fps!! It's presumably not a perfect test, but does that not suggest that there's actually quite a lot of headroom here for more GPU power? Surprised how fast it can run tbh.
Obviously it runs really well and is above 60fps as it is, but still...
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Post by drhickman1983 on Sept 21, 2022 17:01:02 GMT
Definitely skipping. I doubt I'll upgrade until my current GPU packs up.
Have a 3070 and it plays everything I want more than adequately. Especially as I only have a 1080 monitor, I have no plans to get a 4k monitor and, as it's been mentioned in some of the 40 series press, definitely have no plans for 8k.
It also helps that most new games are frankly uninteresting wank so I'm not going to miss out on much, and I have a game backlog anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 17:07:45 GMT
Shit, my mobile 3070 crushes everything at 1440p.
If the desktop GPUs were more reasonably priced, I'd look into maybe building a new PC, but when they're not much cheaper than my entire laptop, I think I can wait.
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Post by malek86 on Sept 21, 2022 18:19:21 GMT
Even so, with my RX 480 approaching six and half years of use, I have almost no choice but to upgrade.
Not with a RTX 4000 though. That relatively old RX6700 is looking quite tempting at 400 euro, I must say... or hell, I could even settle for a basic RX 6600 for 300 euro. I'd still get twice the framerate and most likely steamroll anything on my 1080p60 monitor for a couple more years.
Given that my monitor is ultrawide, though, I could do with the extra power of the 6700, since the 6600 seems to have standard 1080p as its sweet spot, and 2560x1080 is one third more pixels.
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Post by Frog on Sept 21, 2022 19:00:06 GMT
Some of the stats they have released are 3 series cards with no dlss turned on versus the 4 series with dlss 3.0 on. They always pull shit like this, in reality in an equal test you will most likely see a 10-15% performance increase.
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Post by Phattso on Sept 21, 2022 19:25:38 GMT
I’m close to pulling the trigger on the Samsung Neo G7 monitor at pretty much RRP. I need a new screen. That’s the one I’m lusting over. Help me!
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 21, 2022 19:43:59 GMT
Ouch. That’s oled territory.
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Post by Frog on Sept 21, 2022 19:49:25 GMT
Enjoy your new monitor. Yeah it's a lot of money but you will die one day and you can't take it with you. In fact you might be attacked by a gorilla tomorrow and die. There I helped. |
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Post by Phattso on Sept 21, 2022 20:20:36 GMT
I had tickets to London Zoo for tomorrow. Think I’ll pass now.
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Post by Frog on Sept 21, 2022 20:22:59 GMT
No you should go. It's a nice day out and you will lose the tickets otherwise. You can't have fun days out when you are dead and you never know you might be attacked and killed by a gorilla tomorrow.
Look at me, still helping.
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