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Post by jetsetchilli on Jan 23, 2022 22:51:13 GMT
I love me some Tupac too. Biggie was probably the better rapper, but Tupac's tracks were generally funkier!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 22:52:36 GMT
Machine Gun Funk begs to differ!
But yeah, West Coast was generally funkier.
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Post by jetsetchilli on Jan 23, 2022 23:33:46 GMT
Yeah MGF is a banger
Nasty Boy is my favourite Biggie tune followed closely by One More Chance / Stay with me remix oh and Get Money
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 23:56:25 GMT
Give me the Loot and Niggas Bleed for me.
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Post by jetsetchilli on Jan 24, 2022 0:58:08 GMT
Give me the Loot and Niggas Bleed for me. Not tracks I can say I remember so thanks, I will check them out. I have not read the whole thread, but don't remember mention of Gang Starr. They had some cracking tracks throughout the 90's |
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Post by smoothpete on Jan 24, 2022 9:18:27 GMT
U-God's Golden Arms Redemption is pretty shocking for a Wu Tang album. I don't know what the worst hip hop song I've heard is but I think it might be on this album. Could be Hungry. Yikes Hopefully Inspectah Deck is better Inspectah Deck is a beast of an MC. If you haven't already you should checkout Czarface (him, Estotric and 7L going absolutely HAM)
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Post by kal on Jan 24, 2022 11:42:47 GMT
ID was always the Wu-Tang connoisseur’s preference. I remember seeing an interview with them back in the Yo MTV Raps days and they all unanimously rated him the highest. Wish he’d done more with Primo. youtu.be/NqhNTA2VHqk |
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Post by smoothpete on Jan 24, 2022 12:13:45 GMT
He bodied Guru on that track.
His verse on Triumph is generally considered one of the best of all time (if not the actual best)
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 24, 2022 14:28:15 GMT
U-God's Golden Arms Redemption is pretty shocking for a Wu Tang album. I don't know what the worst hip hop song I've heard is but I think it might be on this album. Could be Hungry. Yikes Hopefully Inspectah Deck is better Inspectah Deck is a beast of an MC. If you haven't already you should checkout Czarface (him, Estotric and 7L going absolutely HAM)
Glad you posted this because I'd skipped him after U-God
I'll have a listen. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 15:55:55 GMT
Going to have to go down a Wu-Tang rabbit hole now.
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Post by Kay on Jan 24, 2022 21:25:48 GMT
Brilliant.
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Post by Buu on Jan 25, 2022 9:12:12 GMT
If that was your first listen of Illmatic, I'm almost jealous. Not entirely because the album never gets old and I've listened to it so many times, but it must've been a joy for that first time NY state of mind comes on with one of, if not the, best Premier beat ever.
I have to be honest, my 2Pac knowledge is really lacking, I'm not a huge fan of his but he does have some bangers. I was always a Biggie Stan though. His verses on Victory and Notorious Thugs always get me some tough bits of exercise to the point they get me gassed (the rocky theme tune also helps). I actually think his verse on Victory is a Nas dis but I could be wrong. "You hesitating, I'm in your mama crib waiting. Duck taping your fam, Destiny lays in my hand. Gat lays in my waist" Nas's daughter is called Destiny.
Edit: Whilst I have Nas on the brain. I really love his and Damien Marley's Distant Relatives album
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 14:43:09 GMT
2pac thought Nas was dissing him on The message so did what 2pac does and went after him. He openly dissed Nas on the Makaveli album.
They were then meant to meet in Las Vegas to patch things up but 2pac died. Nas writes about it on Death Row East from KD2.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 25, 2022 15:07:31 GMT
If that was your first listen of Illmatic, I'm almost jealous. Not entirely because the album never gets old and I've listened to it so many times, but it must've been a joy for that first time NY state of mind comes on with one of, if not the, best Premier beat ever. I have to be honest, my 2Pac knowledge is really lacking, I'm not a huge fan of his but he does have some bangers. I was always a Biggie Stan though. His verses on Victory and Notorious Thugs always get me some tough bits of exercise to the point they get me gassed (the rocky theme tune also helps). I actually think his verse on Victory is a Nas dis but I could be wrong. "You hesitating, I'm in your mama crib waiting. Duck taping your fam, Destiny lays in my hand. Gat lays in my waist" Nas's daughter is called Destiny. Edit: Whilst I have Nas on the brain. I really love his and Damien Marley's Distant Relatives album I've listened to it a few times. It actually took me a while to gel with Nas. Ready to Die was the first album that really landed for me. I think Biggie was more accessible because he's such a big personality. There's been a few albums I've developed a greater appreciation for as I've listened to more hip hop - always going back to things for that reason. Doggystyle is another one. I kind of hated it at first but eventually got completely on board with it
I haven't heard Victory but I'm going to give the Diddy album (No Way Out) a listen later on. I avoided Diddy up to this point because Rum mentioned him cashing in on Biggie's death but also I've read he was responsible for a lot of the pop rap stuff
Czarface was indeed excellent anyway. Also listened to Masta Killa's No Said Date. I think I've covered most of the Wu Tang solo stuff now, although I didn't even know Czarface was a thing until it was mentioned here and didn't realise Gravediggaz were a RZA project until I read it in passing after I'd already listened to it so there's probably other projects!
Listened to GZA, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, ODB, Method Man, Gravediggaz, Killah Priest, Czarface, Redman (I think he's affiliated?), Cappadonna and U-God (boo)
Only one or two albums each (usually the first couple) but they all have at least one great album apart from U-God. What an incredible collection of talent
edit: I am going to go through the discogs for everyone, by covered I meant listened to something by every member!
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Post by smoothpete on Jan 25, 2022 15:27:54 GMT
I guess Redman is associated through all his work with Method Man (including a sitcom, weirdly). Redman also had by far the best MTV Cribs episode I've ever seen. Just his bummy assed condo in Newark with his friend passed out on the floor and loads of VHS porn tapes
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 25, 2022 16:17:49 GMT
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Post by Buu on Jan 25, 2022 18:20:03 GMT
Yeah Diddy did cash in and there is a lot that can be said about him... BUT Diddy as a producer. He's up there with Dre and Premier in my eyes.
Speaking of, the latest Gangstarr album was great. But I am a sucker for Preemo boom bap beats
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 14:57:13 GMT
This is so smooth.
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Post by Buu on Jan 28, 2022 18:40:41 GMT
I enjoyed that! Two of my current favourites - can't not like it.
S10 of Fire in the Spoof just started. Not sure how many of you follow them on YouTube but they've got a seriously talented team.
It was Pikachu today, he came through pretty hard. So many Nintendo game references. Love it.
Some of my other favourites
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 28, 2022 23:37:32 GMT
Love that
Shame these guys hooked up with WG (shame for me). I can't get into their stuff even though it's my kind of thing. Even listening to that track, there was a part of me bracing for WG
Need a playlist of stuff for Benny and Conway without WG
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 10:25:19 GMT
Well if you liked the 2nd verse that's J Cole so none of his stuff is with WG as he's not Griselda.
And loads of Benny's stuff doesn't have him on it. Usually says he's featuring if he's on a track. Obviously the group stuff you'd have to avoid, but Griselda solo stuff you should be fine.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 29, 2022 12:54:54 GMT
Well if you liked the 2nd verse that's J Cole so none of his stuff is with WG as he's not Griselda. And loads of Benny's stuff doesn't have him on it. Usually says he's featuring if he's on a track. Obviously the group stuff you'd have to avoid, but Griselda solo stuff you should be fine. I was having a look at J Cole yesterday after listening to the track you posted so will give some a listen
Re: Benny and Conway, it's not actually when WG features on a track that bothers me so much - I don't like his voice but it's fine, it's just his stupid brrrrrrrrrt fofofofo boom boom boom boom boom stuff. It seems to be present on anything even remotely related to Griselda as if he just has to put his mark on it like a dog with a lamp post. I was listening to a Rome Streetz album and it had all that shit
How do you feel about stuff like Run DMC?
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 31, 2022 15:13:22 GMT
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Post by stixxuk on Feb 1, 2022 9:45:29 GMT
What do people on here think of Aesop Rock? I've found occasionally he has an absolute banger track but a lot of his stuff sounds quite samey to me but it might just be my low-effort listening.
However I'm loving the new EP with Blockhead "The Recycling Bin". Think it's a bunch of remixes of older tracks, following on from their recent collaboration Garbology - which to me fell into the samey category.
Anyway, loving the EP. Here's a track.
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Post by dogbot on Feb 1, 2022 9:54:17 GMT
I think he's a great MC, really deep and dense, but that can also make him quite inaccessible. I find the quality of his earlier work to be really patchy, despite being held up as some of the underground greats.
He's grown as an artist, though. His last few records - since he went to Rhymesayers - are great, though (Skelethon, the Impossible Kid, Spirit World Field Guide) and I really like Blockhead, so their collab is really up my street.
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Post by jetsetchilli on Feb 2, 2022 0:00:24 GMT
Yeah, Spirit Field Guide is a great album. His voice grates on me after a while though so not a rapper I could listen to all day
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 2, 2022 0:29:57 GMT
His voice is quite grating
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Post by ekz on Feb 2, 2022 4:25:26 GMT
Really great thread to read through, seen some artists mentioned that I haven't listened to in fuck knows how many years and I really need to fix that.
Ali I seen you were trying to find some decent newer artists a few pages back. My recommendation would be tech n9ne.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2022 23:23:39 GMT
Early in the thread you white Brits were like "can we say the N word if we're quoting a song?"
As the American in this thread, you absolutely cannot.
Period.
Stop it.
The first few pages here made me mad uncomfortable until I got a better idea how y'all saw the world.
Don't do it. Not while singing, not in text.
Don't do it.
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Post by jetsetchilli on Feb 3, 2022 0:18:41 GMT
An old-school rap group that I love but never hear/read recognition of is Poor Righteous Teachers. Wise Intelligent is a brilliant MC. I guess it's because they were pretty political/religious. But that aside their albums are worth checking out.
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