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Post by Kay on Feb 7, 2022 19:00:43 GMT
Even Jay Z said he lost that because of Ether. Just googled that, quite interesting that he apparently took it in good grace and said sometimes you have to accept the losses in order to come back stronger. He has done pretty well for himself since, tbf. |
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Post by Kay on Feb 7, 2022 19:04:23 GMT
Easily, the singles on Blueprint are pretty shit overall. Nah, it has some absolutely iconic songs imo, not least because of Kanye/Just Blaze's sample heavy production style. And basically started Kanye's career really. |
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Feb 8, 2022 14:49:54 GMT
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Post by bichii on Feb 8, 2022 14:49:54 GMT
Blueprint is a classic. Close for me between blueprint and reasonable doubt as his best lp. Still prefer takeover. He just dropped one verse on Nas and all the lines were hard because at the time Nas was dropping shite albums. Ether the whole thing aimed at jay-z and had plenty of dumb lines in it. For the record I prefer Nas to jay z  . |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 8, 2022 17:20:54 GMT
Listened to Blueprint and Reasonable Doubt again and just not feeling him
It's just a personal thing, nothing to do with not thinking he's a good rapper. I think his stuff is a bit too slick for me. There's plenty of good tracks between them, just nothing I love
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Feb 8, 2022 18:51:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 18:51:24 GMT
I'm the same. While I appreciate the skill and craft he has, and he has some classics, I just don't gel with his music.
And I think it's his voice. When he's doing the girls girls girls chorus it's like nails on a chalkboard.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 8, 2022 18:59:51 GMT
Ha, yeah, I hate that track!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 19:19:05 GMT
Always got time for more Pusha
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Post by bichii on Feb 8, 2022 22:58:18 GMT
ALWAYS TIME FOR PUSHA!!
definitely pusha, Benny and Freddy my three favourite rappers when based on maybe the last five-ten years of output.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 9, 2022 11:43:45 GMT
Never even heard of Freddy, unless you mean Gibbs? @rummonkey how would you rank Nas' albums (at least the ones off the top of your head)? |
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Feb 9, 2022 14:06:17 GMT
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Post by bichii on Feb 9, 2022 14:06:17 GMT
Yeah Freddie Gibbs.
For me Nas illmatic and life is good are far better than all his other albums. Nas is one of my favourite rappers but he isn't the best at creating great Lp's. Stillmatic is pretty great and pretty much all his albums have classics on them.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 9, 2022 14:17:34 GMT
I've listened to and enjoyed his albums with Madlib (Gibbs). Still need to dig deeper
Recently listened to Hip Hop Is Dead and there's a lot going on on there
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 18:50:37 GMT
1.It Was Written- I know it should be Illmatic but for me this is better, just.
2.Illmatic- How he wrote this so young is incredible, one of the best albums ever
3.Stillmatic
4.The Lost Tapes
5.Gods Son
6.Life Is Good
7.Kings Disease 2
8.Magic
9.I Am...
10.Kings Disease
11.Hip Hop Is Dead
12.Nastradamus
13.The Lost Tapes 2
14.Untitled
15.Nasir
16.Streets Disciple
That's my list.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 10, 2022 18:55:01 GMT
Will also be my listening order. Thanks for doing that
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Post by Buu on Feb 10, 2022 19:27:08 GMT
4:44 is a great Album. Grown man stuff
And Yes. Ether is just top tier.
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Feb 11, 2022 3:11:05 GMT
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Post by rawshark on Feb 11, 2022 3:11:05 GMT
I’m the Rhymenocerous
My lyrics are bottomless…
…um….
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 11, 2022 7:11:28 GMT
Drake?
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Post by Buu on Feb 11, 2022 9:29:29 GMT
Don't be absurd Drake wouldn't come up with something like that.
However, his writers might
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Post by kal on Feb 11, 2022 9:55:38 GMT
I'm the same. While I appreciate the skill and craft he has, and he has some classics, I just don't gel with his music. And I think it's his voice. When he's doing the girls girls girls chorus it's like nails on a chalkboard. At the time I was very anti him, because he was one of the driving forces of hip hop and RnB merging together, and I was a real purist about it. I hated Reasonable Doubt when it came out. Over the years I’ve mellowed/grown up and come to really love Reasonable Doubt (plus a lot of other RnB type Hip Hop I hated in the 90s). |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 11, 2022 10:35:03 GMT
I'm the same. While I appreciate the skill and craft he has, and he has some classics, I just don't gel with his music. And I think it's his voice. When he's doing the girls girls girls chorus it's like nails on a chalkboard. At the time I was very anti him, because he was one of the driving forces of hip hop and RnB merging together, and I was a real purist about it. I hated Reasonable Doubt when it came out. Over the years I’ve mellowed/grown up and come to really love Reasonable Doubt (plus a lot of other RnB type Hip Hop I hated in the 90s). I think this is where I am with him, although I wouldn't say I'm anti Jay-Z. I only started listening to hip hop recently but I listened to stuff from 90s/2000s first and still prefer it and anything new that sounds like it
The other thing that bothers me about Jay-Z, and I know all rappers do this, but I tried listening to 4:44 as someone mentioned it and it opens with another Jay-Z song about Jay-Z. The Black Album does this too - December 4th does my head in
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Post by Buu on Feb 11, 2022 11:28:34 GMT
Yeah but when an album opens up with "you dropped out of school you lost your principles" you have a big shit eating grin on my face from the get to.
EDIT: Going to add this bit in abouit the song 'Kill Jay-Z'
Plus, The Black Album has Public Service Announcement on it. Legendary
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 11, 2022 12:19:59 GMT
I did think that was a cool line. No disputes about him being talented or derserving his popularity
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2022 13:27:51 GMT
The halftime show at the superbowl was good fun. Nice flashback to the early 2000s.
50cent looks like he ate the old version of himself before he was hanging upside down.
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Post by bichii on Feb 16, 2022 11:39:40 GMT
Yes jay z black album is fire, need to put that on next.
Currently cleaning the house to watch the throne album and I forgot how much I love a lot of it. There are some very average tracks in there but maybe six or seven absolute monsters.
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Post by smoothpete on Feb 16, 2022 11:49:33 GMT
Reasonable Doubt > Blueprint. Reasonable Doubt is up there with my favourite albums of all time. And like you, I didn't like Jay Z at the time. Not till the Black Album tbh |
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Post by bichii on Feb 16, 2022 11:53:07 GMT
Damn got black album on shuffle now. So many classics, moment of clarity is soooooo good.
Back at the time jay often was labelled as just commercial etc.
Love this lyrics at that view...
For those that think Hov's bling-blingin'
Either haven't heard the album or they don't know English
They only know what the single is
And single that out to be the meaning of what he's about
And being I'm about my business, not mingling much
Running my mouth, that shit kept lingering
But no, dummy, that's the shit I'm sprinkling
The album with to keep the registers ringing
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 16, 2022 13:26:55 GMT
Damn got black album on shuffle now. So many classics, moment of clarity is soooooo good. Back at the time jay often was labelled as just commercial etc. Love this lyrics at that view... For those that think Hov's bling-blingin' Either haven't heard the album or they don't know English They only know what the single is And single that out to be the meaning of what he's about And being I'm about my business, not mingling much Running my mouth, that shit kept lingering But no, dummy, that's the shit I'm sprinkling The album with to keep the registers ringing Prefer the Big Ghost version from Revisted. The December 4th version is much better as well |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 16, 2022 14:10:20 GMT
Big Ghost's Van Ghost is a really great album too. So dark and moody
Listened to Tana Talk 3 yesterday. So many good beats
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Post by Kay on Feb 16, 2022 18:06:26 GMT
I've been listening to a lot of Jay-Z over the past few days, what with all the talk on here. Dynasty was the first album of his I bought, and although I didn't like it much at the time it has grown on me since. I'd forgotten how good Soon You'll Understand and Where Have You Been are tbh.
It was only when "5 Mics" Blueprint came out that I started taking him seriously though, before that I always dismissed him as a commercial rapper (albeit with some absolute bangers). Which is somewhat ironic since he had a pretty late start in his music career and was apparently still dealing drugs whilst desperately trying to get a record deal, until he literally created his own record label.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 18:25:04 GMT
You should have heard his rapping style when he was with Jaz-o. It was that rippity rap fast flow.
In fact if you listen to some of Jaz-O's stuff you can see how much he influenced Jay-Z.
His fast flow style was awful though. I'm going to have to listen to his stuff again to see if I can become more of a fan.
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Post by Buu on Feb 16, 2022 21:19:38 GMT
Yes jay z black album is fire, need to put that on next. Currently cleaning the house to watch the throne album and I forgot how much I love a lot of it. There are some very average tracks in there but maybe six or seven absolute monsters. I went and saw them perform that at the O2 Arena and it was amazing. Something I love about seeing Jay Z live, I've only seen him twice, but he sounds exactly like he does on his albums. He makes it sound effortless. |
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