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Post by cristar on Oct 17, 2024 15:51:50 GMT
This Halloween I’m watching the first two Terrifiers as I’m late to the party. I think I watched Jason visits Manhattan last year. It can only be an improvement. I was thinking of doing this too. Not actually sure if they are meant to be any good though. I have enjoyed them all. The first is super grimy and low budget. The second amps up the kill scenes but is a bit bloated and slow at times. The third never let up for the whole 2 hours, but needed another 20 mins in my opinion. Crazy gore practical effects, and a mix of comedic moments and downright brutal and sadistic moments.
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Post by mrpon on Oct 17, 2024 15:54:24 GMT
This Halloween I’m watching the first two Terrifiers as I’m late to the party. I think I watched Jason visits Manhattan last year. It can only be an improvement. I was thinking of doing this too. Not actually sure if they are meant to be any good though. Ditto! Both on Prime. Shit, gonna get adverts.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 17, 2024 15:57:07 GMT
The last Action Hero needs a revaluation. A brief one. Always confused me as to why it isn't regarded as a classic. Releasing near Jurassic Park turned out to be a huge mistake. I think TLAH is a superb film, it would probably have done better now with its meta commentary than it did at release.
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Post by oldskooldeano on Oct 17, 2024 18:49:22 GMT
I just watched Alien Romulus. I think you’ve already done this to death but yeah, it’s good.
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Post by otto on Oct 17, 2024 19:10:15 GMT
You've got the character of Ray Nicolette in Out of Sight and Jackie Brown too. I always loved that.
iirc there are quite a few crossovers between Tarantino movies, and Tarantino-adjacent movies, but those feel more like a franchise Elmore Leonard novels innit
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 17, 2024 19:51:05 GMT
The Alien and Bladerunner worlds are the same.
In 2049 you see a ship like the Sulaco at one point and I’m sure they mention Weyland somewhere too.
The landing/manoeuvring screen in the spinner is also in Alien on the Nostromo.
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Post by rawshark on Oct 17, 2024 20:14:50 GMT
We’re going to need to change the name of this forum to RomGeek soon.
Still haven’t seen it.
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Post by retro74 on Oct 17, 2024 20:15:00 GMT
The Time Machine from Back to the Future was also in the movie Beverley Hills Cop
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Post by rawshark on Oct 17, 2024 20:16:57 GMT
Friends and Mad About You are the same universe.
Sorry, that’s TV.
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Post by brant on Oct 17, 2024 21:17:32 GMT
I mean you could be onto something, but then again lets judge Tobe's career after the excellent Texas Chainsaw... perhaps having Speilberg guide him in the right direction, made it into the 'classic' it is today. I still find it fairly creepy even for something Spielberg was involved with. I don’t know, there’s far more evidence that Hooper saved the film from being the overly generic Spielberg product it could’ve been. He asked for numerous rewrites (something he is notorious for in all his productions), he was literally stripping Spielberg’s script’s comedic relief to a stark minimum, and there’s a story of Beatrice Straight literally telling off Spielberg that if Hooper deemed his dialogue unworkable, then it was Hooper’s right to have Spielberg approve removing that dialogue, as Hooper was the director. I think this unusual working method of Hooper’s - to constantly change things, reinterpret things - is actually what sparked the rumors. All cast members support Hooper. I think some technical department heads were resentful that Hooper was getting his way when they were so determined to have a “Spielberg film” on their resume. Didn’t work out that way, so they made up stories. Isn’t basically all Spielberg and Hooper just his patsy to get around some union rule or contract with another studio or something? Either way, whoever worked on it its a solid movie. Had a real scary mystique around it in the playground when I was at school as someone had been allowed to watch it with their parents and it became a mythical Scariest Movie Ever among us all. The guy who claimed that somewhat walked back his statement later. It was nonsense to begin with anyway, Hooper conceived the entire project, it would be a real jerk move for Spielberg to kick him off the project after developing the film and putting months into pre-production - all to be a front for Spielberg? Doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by paulyboy81 on Oct 17, 2024 21:18:44 GMT
Longlegs
Dark, broody, bonkers serial killer thriller with Nicolas Cage in full on gonzo form.
Didn't really see the last half hour coming either.
Excellent, thoroughly recommended.
8/10
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 17, 2024 21:31:07 GMT
Not a film, but the Firefly ship appears in the first episode of Battlestar Galactica. If I remember rightly, the same visual effects studio worked on both so stuck it in the background. Think you can see it amongst some other ships out of a window in Roslin's office.
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Post by Tomo on Oct 17, 2024 22:24:32 GMT
Terrifier - 6/10?
Phenomenal stuff for it's purported budget of around 50k. Objectively terrible in many ways. The characters studied the same syllabus on how not to avoid imminent death as Charlize Theron. And it's perhaps a bit _too_ lingering on the female violence in particular. But I did enjoy it. Art the Clown is as fucking weird as he is creepy - a genuinely unsettling villain. Intrigued to see how the franchise develops with bigger budgets.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 17, 2024 22:33:21 GMT
The thing I like about Art (aside from him not talking) is that he's genuinely invested in being a clown. It's not just a costume, he does all the clown bits before he eats your face.
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Post by rawshark on Oct 17, 2024 22:44:53 GMT
Now wait a minute… no one said anything about him being a clown.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 17, 2024 22:48:10 GMT
If it helps, Art is actually an android and the Terrifier movies take place in the same universe as Blade Runner and Alien.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 18, 2024 0:18:44 GMT
The Apprentice - At a cinema
Donald Trump - The Earlier Years
Trump starts the film collecting rent from his Dad's housing development's not well off residents, ends it talking to the bloke who writes "The Art of the Deal", between that we see his formative years coming under the wing of Roy Cohn, a complete and utter cunt that the world is far better off that he isn't on it any more. Truly he was who created Trump and we can all hope that if there is a Hell he's regretting it ever since.
Sebastian Stan is great as Trump, he's got so much of the mannerisms and attitude down so well that he really inhabits the character and he's as much of a prick as you'd expect as the film progresses. Jeremy Strong is also very good as Cohn, completely full of himself at the start and a complete shadow of himself as he heads towards his grave. Maria Bakalova doesn't get a lot to do as Ivana other than realise she shouldn't have married Donald.
It's not going to change anyone's opinion of the man; people who think he's a cunt won't suddenly think that maybe there's a good reason for that and his cult won't even watch it.
I'm sure Trump will take it in good grace of a film that shows he's a fucking terrible businessman as well as person and that he won't do anything if he becomes President again. I hope Sebastian Stan has kept his Romanian passport current.
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Post by Zyrr on Oct 18, 2024 3:32:12 GMT
Alien Romulus
(because what this thread needs is more opinions about this film, obvs)
First 30 minutes were good. Really good. Then it all went to absolute shit as the script devolved into a series of box ticking exercises of what Hollywood executives think the fans "really want" and basically became a mixtape of all the previous films with numerous jarring callbacks. When Andy said that line at the bottom of the lift shaft I cringed so hard I think I passed out for about a second.
This is typically the problem with modern sequels to established franchises and they really need to just stop.
Anyway, the film looked absolutely amazing, visually. The practical effects were great, although the aliens were somehow the least interesting thing about the film.
What a tragedy that the script turned out to be such a massive disappointment.
8/10 for the first half an hour, 4/10 for the rest.
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Post by Binky on Oct 18, 2024 8:59:44 GMT
Wolfs
George Clooney and Brad Pitt as cleaners (not the type with tabards).
I thought this had a strange energy. It’s shot nicely, and the two leads are charismatic as you’d expect, but I didn’t think it did enough with the premise. The script is, erm, economical to say the least. I’d say 50% of the words in the script are “fuck” or some derivative.
It was… fine. I expected more.
5/10
P.S. I was wondering if "WOLFS" was less a play on "lone wolf" and more a nod to Mr Wolf, the cleaner from Pulp Fiction. The final scene location in this did make me smile.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 18, 2024 9:22:11 GMT
Alien Romulus (because what this thread needs is more opinions about this film, obvs) First 30 minutes were good. Really good. Then it all went to absolute shit as the script devolved into a series of box ticking exercises of what Hollywood executives think the fans "really want" and basically became a mixtape of all the previous films with numerous jarring callbacks. When Andy said that line at the bottom of the lift shaft I cringed so hard I think I passed out for about a second. This is typically the problem with modern sequels to established franchises and they really need to just stop. Anyway, the film looked absolutely amazing, visually. The practical effects were great, although the aliens were somehow the least interesting thing about the film. What a tragedy that the script turned out to be such a massive disappointment. 8/10 for the first half an hour, 4/10 for the rest. This mirrors entirely my feelings I'm quite surprised that many people overlooked it but then maybe this is what people want.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 18, 2024 9:28:37 GMT
The opening scene/scenes are as good as any Alien thing since the 80s. We got like maybe 10-15 minutes of top tier franchise action and then it gets worse by the second. Like you can see the quality is only degrading before your eyes until it absolutely fucking sucks.
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Post by Tomo on Oct 18, 2024 9:44:17 GMT
I loved the short scenes on the planet in the drudgery and Rain being rebuffed by the deskworker (10/10). The bantz before boarding the ship was terrible (4/10). It greatly picked up when they boarded the space station, but that's always the easy bit in a horror film right, before the horrors are actually uncovered (9/10). I also liked the science lab sections (7/10). Then the action ramped up and got a bit silly imo - agree that the xenos themselves were the least interesting part of it (5/10). THAT line happened and we hit rock bottom (0/10), then I thought the 'epilogue' was awesome (9/10).
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Post by Tomo on Oct 18, 2024 9:45:56 GMT
Think I'm going to take a notepad to cinema from now and rate every 10 minute period /10 just for this thread.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 18, 2024 9:48:06 GMT
Does Empire magazine still do those 'quality over time' graph things for movies?
Or was that Total Film?
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Post by zisssou on Oct 18, 2024 9:51:29 GMT
Total Film
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 18, 2024 10:51:22 GMT
Which is now in the magazine graveyard now I believe.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 18, 2024 10:53:32 GMT
The opening scene/scenes are as good as any Alien thing since the 80s. We got like maybe 10-15 minutes of top tier franchise action and then it gets worse by the second. Like you can see the quality is only degrading before your eyes until it absolutely fucking sucks. It just made groan from tiredness as it went on. I've heard it described as a fan film with a budget and I fully agree.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 18, 2024 11:04:24 GMT
Having just watched that epicly long video in the star trek thread about everything wrong with Picard, it sounds similar. Hey, remember this character you liked? Hey, remember this line? Hey, remember this name? Nostalgia!
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Post by zisssou on Oct 18, 2024 11:26:18 GMT
That is why we're all excited for Freakier Friday.
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Post by simple on Oct 18, 2024 11:51:54 GMT
Second Wind did a video about the perils of pandering to what fans think they want which makes a couple of good points.
And repeats the story about how Roddenberry and the fans tried to stop Wrath of Khan from being made because it wasn’t going to be real Star Trek
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