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Post by askew on Nov 26, 2024 9:08:40 GMT
Standing on the shoulders of giants, there.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 26, 2024 9:19:56 GMT
Good grief.
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Post by Vortex on Nov 26, 2024 9:25:27 GMT
Wait. All these hot takes get confusing, so pasteurisation is a bad thing now?
I'm confused, because that would definitely be better than boiling milk and wouldn't denature all the proteins etc.
It's getting to the point where it's difficult to tell if people are doing a 'bit' now, or serious.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 26, 2024 9:26:01 GMT
Honestly, if in their stupidity and self-assurance they manage to loop back around to actually practicing at least some proper hygiene, I'd rather that than see another pandemic
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Post by Vortex on Nov 26, 2024 9:28:01 GMT
The dangerous bacteria being in quotes is also weird and really troubles me.
Is that suggesting they are some made up thing and not dangerous?
OK, certain commensals (when living in the right place) are fairly benign, fair enough, but there are plenty out there that will really fuck you up given the chance.
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Post by peekconfusion on Nov 26, 2024 9:29:19 GMT
Honestly, if in their stupidity and self-assurance they manage to loop back around to actually practicing at least some proper hygiene, I'd rather that than see another pandemic My concern is for everyone else that will get utterly fucked while these people go on their little journey of self-discovery. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 26, 2024 9:29:48 GMT
The dangerous bacteria being in quotes is also weird and really troubles me. Is that suggesting they are some made up thing and not dangerous? Well, "many" of them haven't died, so! |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 26, 2024 9:30:21 GMT
Wait. All these hot takes get confusing, so pasteurisation is a bad thing now? I'm confused, because that would definitely be better than boiling milk and wouldn't denature all the proteins etc. It's getting to the point where it's difficult to tell if people are doing a 'bit' now, or serious. It gets easier to follow when you understand that many of them go along with whatever the latest unqualified guy in charge* says without a care as to previous stances they've taken. If RFK Jr.'s brain worm tells him that suddenly drinking raw milk is bad, it's going to be all "OMG of course I would never and never have done so, what are you talking about " without a hint of irony. Nothing said before matters, everything changes as required because the guy that "tells it like it is" "didn't actually mean it that time you liberal snowflake". Except the hatred towards anyone that isn't a white Christian Republican straight (in-public) male. I don't think even Trump can tame that particular beast anymore. *Fauci and other experts "in charge" got overridden by Trump and his bleach and horse medicine, that's why I added unqualified |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 26, 2024 9:36:02 GMT
Honestly, if in their stupidity and self-assurance they manage to loop back around to actually practicing at least some proper hygiene, I'd rather that than see another pandemic My concern is for everyone else that will get utterly fucked while these people go on their little journey of self-discovery. The hope is that they'll accidentally follow just barely enough safe practices for everyone else to not get utterly fucked (in this particular instance, at least) |
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Post by rftp on Nov 26, 2024 9:36:40 GMT
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Post by Duffking on Nov 26, 2024 9:48:28 GMT
Do we think Trump doesn't understand how tarrifs work? He's talking about them as if they're going to be punishing China, but the only way that works is if you have domestic alternatives you're planning to lift up, since it's not the country you're imposing tariffs on who pays them. He's imposing tariffs on these other countries "until they solve x/y/z", but that's not actually going to motivate them to do whatever dumb bullshit he wants unless the US has such a viable alternative to those imports that the quantity of imports drops.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Nov 26, 2024 9:55:40 GMT
I doubt he understands the intricacies of it, but I think the "other countries are giving the US a raw deal and need to be punished" thing is one of the only sincere, more or less consistent beliefs he has.
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Post by rftp on Nov 26, 2024 10:02:14 GMT
Even if they did work the way he and his supporters think, by making things more expensive for the countries they are levied on, what does he think will happen? That those companies in those countries will just accept it and say "oh well. less profits for us, outmanoeuvred by those clever Yankees again!"?
Or that they'll just raise the prices and pass them on to the consumer? Either way, the (American) end customers end up paying more.
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Post by Duffking on Nov 26, 2024 10:12:38 GMT
But they *aren't* making it more expensive for those countries. They don't pay the tariffs, the customer does. The hope is that customers will buy American instead, but if you don't have American alternatives...
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zagibu
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Post by zagibu on Nov 26, 2024 10:15:33 GMT
At best it will create another Harley Davidson situation.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 26, 2024 10:17:25 GMT
I'm not sure Trump actually knows how virtually anything works so tariffs are certainly beyond him. 25% tariffs on everything from Canada and Mexico and 35% from China? Er yeah that's going to work out great and it's thought it'll be 10% from anywhere else at a minimum. It's pretty fucking insane stuff to be his first act but I guess when you elect a brain addled rapist criminal fuckwit what do you expect? The extra 10% for Chinese goods is because of some reverse opium war shit that's probably only in his head.
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Post by cubby on Nov 26, 2024 10:38:50 GMT
"Thank you for your attention to this matter"
How to know when Donald didn't write any of that himself.
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Post by nazo on Nov 26, 2024 11:00:55 GMT
It’s ok guys, he promised to solve inflation so those tariffs are definitely not going to result in price increases.
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Post by skalpadda on Nov 26, 2024 12:48:20 GMT
The dangerous bacteria being in quotes is also weird and really troubles me. Is that suggesting they are some made up thing and not dangerous? OK, certain commensals (when living in the right place) are fairly benign, fair enough, but there are plenty out there that will really fuck you up given the chance. An epidemic of necrotizing fasciitis (despite the name it sadly doesn't affect only fascists, and don't look up pictures) would somehow be a fitting achievement for RFK. I wouldn't put it past them to somehow manage it at this point. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 26, 2024 13:05:28 GMT
It’s ok guys, he promised to solve inflation so those tariffs are definitely not going to result in price increases. And if they do it's the forrin countries' fault for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and tanking the cost themselves /s |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 26, 2024 13:14:01 GMT
I mean, if he successfully makes imports more expensive, then I guess that means stuff produced in the US by US minimum wage workers becomes competitive again. If they could suddenly ramp up production of everything. And if most of that stuff wouldn't be made with imported parts and materials. And if consumers don't mind paying 25% more for their products. And I guess half the companies profiting from those cheaper overseas goods are US companies anyway.
And I'm sure those countries won't put equivalent tariffs on US imports.
But maybe the best thing is just to let him do it, and see how long it takes for people to get fed up. Then again, it took about 6 years for Brexit... |
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Post by cubby on Nov 26, 2024 13:17:41 GMT
In theory this should have a more immediate effect than brexit did.
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Post by otto on Nov 26, 2024 14:29:00 GMT
Do we think Trump doesn't understand how tarrifs work? He's talking about them as if they're going to be punishing China, but the only way that works is if you have domestic alternatives you're planning to lift up, since it's not the country you're imposing tariffs on who pays them. He's imposing tariffs on these other countries "until they solve x/y/z", but that's not actually going to motivate them to do whatever dumb bullshit he wants unless the US has such a viable alternative to those imports that the quantity of imports drops. Truth Social LOL  |
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Post by otto on Nov 26, 2024 14:30:27 GMT
It’s ok guys, he promised to solve inflation so those tariffs are definitely not going to result in price increases. infLOLtion  |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 26, 2024 14:36:08 GMT
Enjoy, thick fucks!
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Post by rftp on Nov 26, 2024 14:37:32 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 26, 2024 17:41:24 GMT
I don't think that's wealth trickling down onto everyone below... |
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Post by Tuffty on Nov 26, 2024 18:01:16 GMT
Mexican President releases a pretty thorough statement on the danger of imposing tariffs. Mind you, you know he and his followers are just gonna ask for some abridged version while demanding the tariffs on Mexico increase to 500% or something
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 26, 2024 22:25:30 GMT
The above (last page's last post) would be a wonderful statement if it were addressed to a reasonable and decently intelligent person. Unfortunately, it was wasted on Donald Fucking Trump.
"If only those filthy Mexicans had paid for my big, beautiful, wall, some say it was the biggest they'd ever seen, people would come up to me, big, burly men, they'd say "Sir" and they had tears in their eyes, "Sir, we've never seen a wall as big as yours Sir", and if only the Mexicans had paid we wouldn't, we'd get no drugs at all, and we, the Democrats, and Sleepy Joe Biden..."
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 27, 2024 0:01:39 GMT
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