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Post by salaman on Jul 17, 2022 14:37:29 GMT
Boring as hell stage and then JV riders crash twice in 5 minutes.
Kruiswijk out. Vingegaard and Benoot crashed but back in there bunch.
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Post by atomix on Jul 17, 2022 14:39:06 GMT
Ned and David putting forward a fairly decent argument for the protests and the decreased use of vehicles on the Tour.
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Post by elstoof on Jul 17, 2022 15:51:54 GMT
Heartbreaking to get caught 500m from the finish
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Post by atomix on Jul 17, 2022 15:53:47 GMT
The French can’t catch a break so far this year it seems.
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Post by salaman on Jul 19, 2022 13:55:24 GMT
Just had a quick look at the live feed. Still 50k to go but it looks like it could be another win for Van Aert.
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Post by askew on Jul 19, 2022 15:08:03 GMT
Totes emosh
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Post by rhaegyr on Jul 19, 2022 15:46:15 GMT
Is there an idiot's guide to the Tour de France kicking around somewhere?
I like to watch parts of it every year but I'll be fucked if I understand mouch of it - the graphics on screen (and what they mean), the different jersey classifications, what to look out for etc.
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Post by askew on Jul 19, 2022 16:50:52 GMT
inrng.com/tour/ should get you started Not sure it covers the TV graphics, but the markings at the top represent the important groups on the road: often the breakaway, sometimes the leaders, and then the peloton. The group currently on screen is notated by the yellow accent, and you'll see the time-gaps between groups: maybe 5 minutes from breakaway to the next group, then another measurement like "Gr[oup]. Bardet: 30'"
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Post by salaman on Jul 19, 2022 17:42:56 GMT
In any bike race, there's essentially 2 groups. Those who are in contention for the race victory and those who are not.
Each team has 7 riders and when riding in front, you're putting in effort, using up energy and if you keep at it long enough, build up lactic acid which will kill your legs (no more power to push those pedals).
If you ride behind someone putting in that effort, you're slipstreaming and using only a fraction of the energy they are. So you preserve energy and your legs stay fresh.
So the goal of each team is to get their best rider (fastest, most explosive sprinter for flat stages, best climber for mountain stages, etc.) to the finish as fresh as possible.
There is typically a breakaway early on. The guys in the breakaway are in contention to win if they can build a good lead and keep it.
The teammates of the ones in the break can take it easy and sit back all day. They can't be expected to do any work trying to reel in the breakaway group.
That's their teammate with a chance to win.
The teams that missed the breakaway, have to put in the effort to keep the gap small enough, so their best rider has a shot of getting back in contention for the win. +the teammates of the guys in front, who are slipstreaming all day.
Most of the info on screen is to show you where the different groups are.
Group 1 is the breakaway. Group 2 are the next riders chasing them. Etc.
In a multi-stage race, there is an overall classification (gc), which just adds up the time it took to complete each stage. The rider leading the GC gets a special jersey (yellow in the tour, pink in the giro, etc.)
The best young rider in the GC also gets a jersey. White in the tour.
There's a separate scoring for mountains, with point awarded to the first ride to summit a climb (and lesser points for 2nd, 3rd, etc).
The leader in that ranking gets the polka dot jersey.
There's a separate scoring for sprints. With points awarded at an intermediate sprint each day + points at each finish. More points on a flat stages, as those often end in a sprint.
The leader of the points ranking gets a green jersey.
Apart from the jerseys for the different classifications in the tour, there is also a World Champion jersey, with rainbow stripes. And various national champion jerseys that mostly look like the flag of the country.
Ex world champions or ex national champions often have thin stripes at the end of their sleeves to indicate that.
When you're watching a race, it's usually a case of watching who (which teams) is in the break, who is doing the work behind and whether they're putting in enough effort to bring their best rider back in contention for the win.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jul 20, 2022 9:10:53 GMT
Thanks for the above - this was incredibly helpful when I turned the highlights on yesterday.
Even something as simple as knowing the yellow accent shows the group the camera is currently following was really beneficial.
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Post by askew on Jul 20, 2022 11:58:52 GMT
Pogi's down another domestique today after Rafa Majka DNS: he bashed his knee on his handlebars yesterday when his chain snapped on the last climb.
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Post by salaman on Jul 20, 2022 13:54:18 GMT
2nd but last climb of the day and I have the afternoon off. Yay!
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Is about to kick off, surely!?
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Post by askew on Jul 20, 2022 14:16:06 GMT
Oof. This last climb is going to be brutal for Vingegard
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Post by askew on Jul 20, 2022 14:54:31 GMT
Narrator: it wasn't.
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Post by gamecat on Jul 20, 2022 15:42:50 GMT
Pogi has to put a minute plus into Vingegaard on the Hautacam tomorrow I guess, hes better at TTs but not 2 minutes over 41k better.
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Post by salaman on Jul 21, 2022 11:54:34 GMT
Excellent. National holiday today. I'm home alone.
I'm ready to catch the hectic when trying to establish the break for the day for a change.
Froome also it with covid, after he settled ready to ride. He signed his name on the riders' sheet before receiving the news.
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Post by askew on Jul 21, 2022 14:33:15 GMT
This is fun. The first punches are being thrown
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Post by salaman on Jul 21, 2022 14:38:27 GMT
All the fun I was hoping for yesterday. Also, Wout gets the polka dot jersey if he wins the stage |
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Post by salaman on Jul 21, 2022 14:44:18 GMT
Boy, oh boy, oh boy.
Fingerlicking good stuff.
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Post by askew on Jul 21, 2022 14:44:40 GMT
That handshake… wow
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Post by salaman on Jul 21, 2022 14:53:37 GMT
If you have to watch the stage later, things get interesting with around 40km to go
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Post by Vortex on Jul 21, 2022 14:56:25 GMT
Did you see the press bike causing bauer to crash earlier? Fucking hell. Almost as bad as the car that took a rider out trying to pass a few years back.
Great stage so far. So glad i am off and awaiting more fireworks on the final climb! 😀
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Post by salaman on Jul 21, 2022 15:05:47 GMT
Did you see the press bike causing bauer to crash earlier? Fucking hell. Almost as bad as the car that took a rider out trying to pass a few years back. Great stage so far. So glad i am off and awaiting more fireworks on the final climb! 😀 There were 2 crashes. A DSM rider hits a stationary bike on the left, which causes the team car to slam the brakes, just as that press motorbike was about to pass it. That was the sporza reporter on the bike and they got taken out of the race, along with the ASO bike who told them to stop there. |
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Post by askew on Jul 21, 2022 15:13:14 GMT
Wout's doing this for you, Sal.
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Post by salaman on Jul 21, 2022 15:14:35 GMT
Wout's doing this for you, Sal. It's the least he can do on our national holiday. :) |
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Post by askew on Jul 21, 2022 15:27:45 GMT
Amazing. And Pogi is such an exciting warrior. I still don't think it can be decided until Saturday…
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Post by salaman on Jul 21, 2022 15:43:00 GMT
Amazing. And Pogi is such an exciting warrior. I still don't think it can be decided until Saturday… He'll need to make up over 3 minutes on a 40km TT, no? |
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Post by askew on Jul 21, 2022 15:56:57 GMT
Watch out for his breakaway/sprint win tomorrow! Never say never…
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Post by elstoof on Jul 21, 2022 16:09:49 GMT
How do you breakaway on an individual time trial
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Post by askew on Jul 21, 2022 16:15:28 GMT
Tomorrow ain't the TT.
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