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Post by harriselhoff on Aug 13, 2021 20:37:57 GMT
Is Willian on the bench to rescue this?
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 13, 2021 20:39:28 GMT
Equally, can in no way argue that the Brentford XI is stronger man for man so Arteta hardly blameless here.
Only saving grace is the weird fact that we do generally do better against stronger teams under Mikel. Will have to do much better against Spurs and Chelsea again to keep his job.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Aug 13, 2021 20:40:03 GMT
Oh I see. They are just going for the 'don't defend set pieces at all' tactic this season then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 20:40:43 GMT
Oh I see. They are just going for the 'don't defend set pieces at all' tactic this season then. Hopefully something we've changed for this season. |
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Aug 13, 2021 20:42:32 GMT
Oh I see. They are just going for the 'don't defend set pieces at all' tactic this season then. Hopefully something we've changed for this season. Fortunately it seems we won't have to play a guy who needs an Epi Pen after attempting a header next to Maguire this season. |
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Post by reddevil93 on Aug 13, 2021 20:45:59 GMT
Cracking save that is.
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Post by Graxlar on Aug 13, 2021 20:46:00 GMT
Equally, can in no way argue that the Brentford XI is stronger man for man so Arteta hardly blameless here. Only saving grace is the weird fact that we do generally do better against stronger teams under Mikel. Will have to do much better against Spurs and Chelsea again to keep his job. I was saying earlier. This Brentford side is a very good championship side, it should make life difficult for the league but should be blown away by the arsenals. David Raya is immense though. |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Aug 13, 2021 20:50:16 GMT
Good start to the Amazon documentary.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 13, 2021 20:53:39 GMT
Fully deserved Bees. By far the better team
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Aug 13, 2021 20:54:44 GMT
Decent opener that.
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Post by scottteeeyyy on Aug 13, 2021 20:55:12 GMT
I don’t know if I can go a whole season of this crap, it’s not even going to get better in the next two weeks
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Post by askew on Aug 13, 2021 20:56:08 GMT
The bonus of the Friday KO is that the lols will be but tears in the rain come tomorrow evening.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Aug 13, 2021 20:56:33 GMT
Congratulations Bees! My 7 year old self might be following you now instead of wondering where Manchester is. 😝
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 13, 2021 20:56:35 GMT
Losing to Watford a couple of years ago it was obvious that Emery needed to go. This feels very much like that. Zero signs of progress. No clear plan. No excuses. Less than the sum of their parts.
I've been on fully onboard with Arteta till now and felt he deserved time. Well here's had a whole summer now and that ain't good enough. I hear Conte is available.
Well done Brentford.
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Post by RobEG on Aug 13, 2021 20:57:12 GMT
Saw this result coming to be honest. And probably would have expected the same if it was us playing them. Difficult first fixture, but Arsenal were poor.
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Post by Switch_v85 on Aug 13, 2021 20:57:59 GMT
What a start for Brentford. Arsenal the gift that keep on giving. Also great to hear crowds again.
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Post by Mark1412 on Aug 13, 2021 20:59:53 GMT
Losing to Watford a couple of years ago it was obvious that Emery needed to go. This feels very much like that. Zero signs of progress. No clear plan. No excuses. Less than the sum of their parts. I've been on fully onboard with Arteta till now and felt he deserved time. Well here's had a whole summer now and that ain't good enough. I hear Conte is available. Well done Brentford. This is the big issue. He's had bloody ages in football terms. |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Aug 13, 2021 21:02:05 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Aug 13, 2021 21:02:33 GMT
I think there is a plan. We just don't have the players to play like he wants. We played exactly as the team looked. Inexperienced.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 21:03:23 GMT
Golly.
Sitting here in a pub 5 minutes from Brentford stadium and trying to decide whether to finish my pint and run, or sit and watch the upcoming carnage.
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Post by harriselhoff on Aug 13, 2021 21:05:44 GMT
Losing to Watford a couple of years ago it was obvious that Emery needed to go. This feels very much like that. Zero signs of progress. No clear plan. No excuses. Less than the sum of their parts. I've been on fully onboard with Arteta till now and felt he deserved time. Well here's had a whole summer now and that ain't good enough. I hear Conte is available. Well done Brentford. I just said similar to my wife (who has no interest in football). Arsenal used to be exciting going forward but dodgy at the back. For a short while it seemed that Arteta was going to sort it out in defence at least, and that the drawback was going to be a more reserved style of play. That hasn’t happened though, they are just as bad defending, making silly mistakes, and offer little going forward. They are just boring to watch, which is such a shame. Just a nothing team, not even one of those that lack in skill but make up for it in effort. They seem to lack desire, focus and the life has been sucked out of them. |
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 13, 2021 21:09:19 GMT
I think there is a plan. We just don't have the players to play like he wants. We played exactly as the team looked. Inexperienced. I could accept that if we were up against a top half team. You can't honestly tell me more than a couple of Brentford players would have got in a combined XI? It's not all Arteta's fault as we've not done well in the transfer market, but even so, those players should look reasonably authoritative against Brentford and create some decent chances. |
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Aug 13, 2021 21:10:29 GMT
Golly. Sitting here in a pub 5 minutes from Brentford stadium and trying to decide whether to finish my pint and run, or sit and watch the upcoming carnage. The Express was rammed, I had a quick pint to check out the crowd. I watched at home, couldn't face the carnage. |
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Post by Dgzter on Aug 13, 2021 21:12:36 GMT
Rough for the Gunners. Thought Brentford played pretty well.
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 13, 2021 21:12:50 GMT
I'm very much looking forward to seeing how Arteta explains that performance because it was terrible.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 13, 2021 21:30:33 GMT
Oh he definitely has lots of answering to do. There were some marginal calls but we can't complain. Defended terribly for most of the 1st half, and both goals. Bit unlucky in the final 3rd, but Raya only had to make one (tremendous) save.
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Post by DakeyrasUK on Aug 13, 2021 21:50:39 GMT
Wow, great start by Brentford!
Sure Arsenal defended badly for the goals, but I think Brentford generally outplayed Arsenal and Arsenal (second half) were just not on it enough to get the goals.
Far too soon to be reading despair from fans.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 13, 2021 21:58:00 GMT
It's not despair as I'm quite confident Arteta can safely guide us to another 8th place finish. I might be a naive romantic but I'd rather hoped we might be scrapping for the lofty heights of 5-6th this year.
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Post by Gruf on Aug 13, 2021 22:33:18 GMT
Never mind, at least you still have Xhaka...
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Post by Dougs on Aug 13, 2021 22:38:49 GMT
He had a decent 2nd half but dreadful 1st. Tbh, the main thing I am looking forward to this season is watching the games with my son. For my sins, it seems the hooks are well and truly in and he's all over it. Doesn't stop yabbering all game though. Stop. Asking. So. Many. Questions!
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