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Post by Dougs on Oct 26, 2021 6:55:12 GMT
Is it coming free to Disney+? If so, probably. If not, doubtful
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 6:59:14 GMT
When it's free and I'm hungover.
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Post by Onny on Oct 26, 2021 7:13:42 GMT
I’ve been looking forward to this for ages, so I’m disappointed by the reviews. I was always keen on the cosmic scale of it I suppose, and the concept art of the celestials looked really cool. Of course, I’ll still be seeing it.
It’s funny in a way that the MCU might be a victim of its own success. Infinity War/Endgame were so brilliant, and finished things off so well, that it’s a struggle to make subsequent films feel like there are big enough stakes; any “end of the world” stuff feels a bit second rate next to Thanos literally killing half the life in the universe.
I did enjoy Black Widow and (especially) Shang Chi but I wonder if both of them might have worked better without their respective final acts; to try to make them more personal (they are both an estranged family drama after all) and less “save the world again” could have worked in their favour. But I’m not Kevin Feige so maybe it would have been much worse.
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Post by beastmaster on Oct 26, 2021 8:22:14 GMT
I recently watched Nomadland from director Chloé Zhao. Switched off after an hour. Hated it. Didn't have much hope for this after seeing that but I'll still use my Odeon pass and go and see it. I might enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 8:47:55 GMT
I'm not too fussed about the bad reviews for Eternals as I can't say I was particularly looking forward to it anyway. Something just didn't excite me about what I'd seen from the trailers and it doesn't help that a lot of the main cast are boring as hell to watch. I don't think I'm going to properly get into this phase of the MCU until Spider-man, Doctor sTrange and the next Thor film. This first batch isn't doing much for me.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 26, 2021 9:25:11 GMT
Is it coming free to Disney+? If so, probably. If not, doubtful Eventually. I’d guess at around Christmas or soon after. Since endgame I’ve definitely lost a lot of interest in the marvel films. I’ll still watch them all but I looked forwards to most of them before. At the moment it feels like they’re back to building up from scratch but with half their best/better known characters gone so they’re resorting to the rest now. |
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Post by simple on Oct 26, 2021 10:23:08 GMT
I recently watched Nomadland from director Chloé Zhao. Switched off after an hour. Hated it. Didn't have much hope for this after seeing that but I'll still use my Odeon pass and go and see it. I might enjoy it. I liked Nomadland but there’s literally nothing about it that makes me think ‘this is what the MCU needs’ But obviously in three months time when it arrives free on Disney+ I’ll be watching it |
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Post by simple on Oct 26, 2021 10:24:27 GMT
Is it coming free to Disney+? If so, probably. If not, doubtful Eventually. I’d guess at around Christmas or soon after. Since endgame I’ve definitely lost a lot of interest in the marvel films. I’ll still watch them all but I looked forwards to most of them before. At the moment it feels like they’re back to building up from scratch but with half their best/better known characters gone so they’re resorting to the rest now. And its not like they’ve even gone to the next tier down because that would be Fantastic Four etc, they’ve peeled things right back to some total unknowns |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 26, 2021 13:10:19 GMT
I don't know that hating Nomadland is going to mean anything with regards to this. Directors generally don't get to put their own personal stamp onto a Marvel movie; they just do what they're told, as well as they can.
And a good amount of the films are "directed" by whoever does the CG fight scenes anyway. They don't need (or want) input from the person that works with the actors.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 26, 2021 13:23:47 GMT
Eventually. I’d guess at around Christmas or soon after. Since endgame I’ve definitely lost a lot of interest in the marvel films. I’ll still watch them all but I looked forwards to most of them before. At the moment it feels like they’re back to building up from scratch but with half their best/better known characters gone so they’re resorting to the rest now. And its not like they’ve even gone to the next tier down because that would be Fantastic Four etc, they’ve peeled things right back to some total unknowns Tbh going back to unknowns is fine. Guardians of the Galaxy was obscure as fuck and was great, even Iron Man wasn't exactly a well known character outside of comic book circles and know he's firmly lodged in the pop culture psyche. Even recently, Shang-Chi, who was also pretty damn obscure resulted in one of the best MCU films for years. If anything, I think starting from scratch *again* is the best thing to do. All that being said I've also lost a lot of interest since End Game, but Shang-Chi did a lot to regain it. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 26, 2021 13:27:24 GMT
I don't know that hating Nomadland is going to mean anything with regards to this. Directors generally don't get to put their own personal stamp onto a Marvel movie; they just do what they're told, as well as they can. And a good amount of the films are "directed" by whoever does the CG fight scenes anyway. They don't need (or want) input from the person that works with the actors. It's a balance act between the directors own input and the behemoth that is the MCU. You can very much feel Gunn's and Waiti's, and even The Russo's influence all over their films. I don't fully agree that the film's are directed by the fight scene stuff, that's generally the least interesting part of the MCU films. Without the enjoyable characters it would be utterly meaningless, and the directors are fairly instrumental in the character side of things. |
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Oct 26, 2021 13:30:40 GMT
The trailers have done nothing for me.
If all of the films antogonists are generic CGI beasties I'm going to struggle to stay awake.
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Post by simple on Oct 26, 2021 13:37:13 GMT
And its not like they’ve even gone to the next tier down because that would be Fantastic Four etc, they’ve peeled things right back to some total unknowns Tbh going back to unknowns is fine. Guardians of the Galaxy was obscure as fuck and was great, even Iron Man wasn't exactly a well known character outside of comic book circles and know he's firmly lodged in the pop culture psyche. Even recently, Shang-Chi, who was also pretty damn obscure resulted in one of the best MCU films for years. If anything, I think starting from scratch *again* is the best thing to do. All that being said I've also lost a lot of interest since End Game, but Shang-Chi did a lot to regain it. Fair enough, I hadn’t totally thought of if that way. Although Iron Man might not have been Spiderman, Hulk or X-Men but he was probably next in line with being an Avenger and having his own cartoon and game appearances. GOTG possibly weren’t even the biggest team of misfit golden hearted space pirates in the comics universe (Starjammers beat them by being recurring characters in X-Men?) |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 26, 2021 14:03:31 GMT
I don't know that hating Nomadland is going to mean anything with regards to this. Directors generally don't get to put their own personal stamp onto a Marvel movie; they just do what they're told, as well as they can. And a good amount of the films are "directed" by whoever does the CG fight scenes anyway. They don't need (or want) input from the person that works with the actors. It's a balance act between the directors own input and the behemoth that is the MCU. You can very much feel Gunn's and Waiti's, and even The Russo's influence all over their films. I don't fully agree that the film's are directed by the fight scene stuff, that's generally the least interesting part of the MCU films. Without the enjoyable characters it would be utterly meaningless, and the directors are fairly instrumental in the character side of things. I guess those directors have their own style. But it seems like a style that was already suited to Marvel stuff, with the quippy dialogue and all that. I just don't think someone most famous for prestige drama is going to be able to flex those muscles in a Marvel project. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with that! I just don't think these are particularly director-focused movies (give or take a Waititi). Hell, for plenty of them I don't remember who the director even was. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 15:31:43 GMT
I guess Kit Harrington was cheap to employ? He was that Pompeii film and he was like a block of wood (with less acting range) GOTG worked well with the script, director and cast (and cast together), despite no one (outside marvel comic fans) had heard of it. I'm familiar with some marvel stuff and never heard of it. Eternals does not have a good group cast and seems very bland (from the trailers of course) Just waiting for phase 15 where they fall back on the New New Warriors with "safe space and snowflake" (those are the real super heroes names btw) and the other that sniffs "internet gas"  |
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 26, 2021 16:11:18 GMT
It helped that GotG had momentum behind it and it was very good, it was surrounded by lots of other marvel films that were established franchises but that point.
At the moment the only good and established marvel film since endgame has been the Spider-Man one (obvious contributing to that). If they keep putting our films the standard of this and Black Widow then my interest levels will drop fast.
Nothing about eternal has looked very interesting from the trailers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 16:25:01 GMT
I really liked Black Widow. I'm surprised by how poorly it was received here. It's not the best Marvel film, but pretty middle of the pack IMO. I'd put it over the Thors and Dr. Strange, at least.
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Post by simple on Oct 26, 2021 18:30:09 GMT
I thought Black Widow was good up until they got to the villain’s base. It kind of lost its way then but before that it was fun. I think the Bond-y action thriller vibe works well for the more grounded heroes (Cap, Widow, Falcon, Bucky) and moving away from that in the final act lost something for me.
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Post by stuz359 on Oct 26, 2021 18:51:07 GMT
TBF, I think Covid has put a bit of a dampener on the series momentum. Since Endgame, only three films have been released, Far from Home was essentially a direct sequel to Endgame and didn't really move the story on. Black Widow was a prequel, so no stakes really (a vehicle to introduce Florence Pugh as the new widow maybe) and Shang-Chi, which I really enjoyed.
The Eternals, not sure about, but I will definitely give it a watch, maybe not at cinema though. TBF, the last film I went to cinema to see was Rise of Skywalker, not keen to repeat the experience.
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Post by aubergine on Oct 26, 2021 20:45:24 GMT
I liked all the character stuff in black widow, but the action and effects were uniformly terrible, I was constantly taken out of it by women falling ten stories without a scratch especially, I mean ScarJo shouldn’t have even had a face by the end of it but she didn’t even bruise after deliberately getting punched in the face ten times then smashing her own face into a desk.
But the third act outright sucked. The secret base in a cloud felt like a rehash of things we’d seen in four other MCU movies. Ran Winston having magic cologne than prevented anyone from shooting him was fucking idiotic, even by comic-book standards, and Widow’s “punch my face in because I don’t have a tissue to just stick up my nose” plan just had me groaning. And then they all fall a thousand stories and not a scratch.
That was the worst part of it. If ScarJo had been increasingly injured throughout, like a Die Hard movie, I’d probably have forgiven any other annoyance, but her invulnerability and lack of consequence just made all the action vacuous, boring even.
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Post by shinymiller on Oct 27, 2021 14:41:17 GMT
Not sure I'd agree with that - after her early car crash/whupping from Taskmaster her back was shown to basically be one big bruise, and then after the chase scene later on she was having to bandage up her cuts and taking painkillers (and for the final fall she was holding onto someone with a parachute the whole time). Admittedly all those face punches and desk-planting at the end only resulting in the usual movie injuries of 'small cut and a bit of a nosebleed' was poor, but most action films are reluctant to mangle up the leading man/woman's face.
I actually slightly preferred Black Widow to a lot of the recent Marvel films (Dr Strange, GOTG2) but it did really drop in quality towards the end, especially when Winstone turned up with his rubbish Russian accent.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 28, 2021 14:07:45 GMT
She's a proper Bond agent if she can fall off a building or drive a tank through a wall without messing up her hair.
*straightens tie*
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 28, 2021 14:59:50 GMT
Not sure I'd agree with that - after her early car crash/whupping from Taskmaster her back was shown to basically be one big bruise, and then after the chase scene later on she was having to bandage up her cuts and taking painkillers (and for the final fall she was holding onto someone with a parachute the whole time). Admittedly all those face punches and desk-planting at the end only resulting in the usual movie injuries of 'small cut and a bit of a nosebleed' was poor, but most action films are reluctant to mangle up the leading man/woman's face. I actually slightly preferred Black Widow to a lot of the recent Marvel films (Dr Strange, GOTG2) but it did really drop in quality towards the end, especially when Winstone turned up with his rubbish Russian accent. You forgot that bit where she falls off the building into pipes and magically suffers no broken bones just a limp for about a minute. The film was laughable. |
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Post by simple on Oct 28, 2021 23:18:21 GMT
Hawkeye looks like its going to be a lot of fun
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Post by simple on Nov 3, 2021 22:44:39 GMT
Looks like Sony is playing for the high school mall goth market again
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 3, 2021 22:57:57 GMT
All I could think after watching that is that his origin now seems to be that he was bitten by a bat and gained the abilities and proportional strength of a bat making him... Bat-Man.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 4, 2021 2:30:36 GMT
Don't you mean ManBat? I can't watch the trailer at work, but it seems like a trailer about someone contracting a disease after being bitten by a bat might be a little tasteless in the current climate  |
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Post by KD on Nov 4, 2021 3:03:39 GMT
Man Bat is up against The Comedian.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 4, 2021 4:59:32 GMT
Having had absolutely zero interest in The Eternals thus far, I'm wondering if lowered expectations might actually lead to it being a nice surprise. I've heard a couple of people who've seen it say it was better than they expected.
On the other hand, it might be shaping up for a Last Jedi style narrative where everyone hears its bad and prejudges it and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Combined with a backlash against it from alt-right commenters.
I'm kinda worried it'll tank and that'll push marvel back to concentrating on their core MCU movie style and heroes.
On the other hand, maybe Spiderman will make bank and they'll forget all about it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 4, 2021 9:18:05 GMT
I'm kinda worried it'll tank and that'll push marvel back to concentrating on their core MCU movie style and heroes. Im not sure why thats a bad thing. There has clearly been a massive dip in quality since they moved to the content farm model to prop up Disney+. |
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