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Post by myk on Feb 28, 2023 13:33:13 GMT
I just want them to make more Division games, for me they've got the best 'flow' as a cover shooter and nothing else is really in the same space.
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Post by Derblington on Feb 28, 2023 13:45:19 GMT
Game-wise, I think Ubi generally cater to my interests more than any other 3rd party pub. The problem is that they lean too much on yearly or bi-annual releases of their major IPS, and lean on features from the other titles to help bring new features to the rest, making all them feel identical. Far Cry, AssCreed, WatchDogs and Ghost Recon never used to feel similar. I don't remember the last time I was excited about one of their major titles, despite owning most and playing them now and again - it's more for comfort gaming than being really engrossed. They still do more experimental stuff internally than the other pubs, I think, but they don't make much of them. Other than The Crew, which is still getting sequels.
Stop producing yearly updates for every big thing and a lot of the stale feeling would go away. Give each project more time and IP room to breath apart from the others. You'd probably solve a chunk of the staffing, crunch and burnout issues too. But it's all easier said than done when you have 1000s of people on payroll and all of them need to be busy.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 28, 2023 13:50:13 GMT
In fairness to them they do seem to have moved away from the annual releases. It'll be 3 years between Valhalla and Mirage for example. Although that's probably only because they keep trying to shoehorn live service stuff into them.
Far Cry 6 was October 2021 and they haven't announced a sequel yet.
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Post by Derblington on Feb 28, 2023 14:14:24 GMT
In the leak about the 7 AssCreeds in various stages of production, they said that each would have a different feel (or something to that effect). Would be nice if true but with each being so closely planned together I don't see how they'll have time or tech to really give them much separation. We'll see I guess.
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Post by wunty on Feb 28, 2023 14:16:14 GMT
I just want them to make more Division games, for me they've got the best 'flow' as a cover shooter and nothing else is really in the same space. Bloody love The Divison games. I even left the second one installing this morning because I want to have a nose through the new season.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 28, 2023 14:35:17 GMT
In fairness to them they do seem to have moved away from the annual releases. It'll be 3 years between Valhalla and Mirage for example. Although that's probably only because they keep trying to shoehorn live service stuff into them. Far Cry 6 was October 2021 and they haven't announced a sequel yet. I thought they had in a quiet way, anyway it's being developed and using the Snowdrop engine from Division, they're finally retiring Dunia.
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Post by JonFE on Feb 28, 2023 14:49:28 GMT
I just want them to make more Division games, for me they've got the best 'flow' as a cover shooter and nothing else is really in the same space. Bloody love The Divison games. I even left the second one installing this morning because I want to have a nose through the new season. I enjoyed the first Division game (the snowy Xmas setting combined with the abandoned urban environment was amazing) and bought the sequel on the strength of that, but never got around to play it
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Post by simple on Feb 28, 2023 14:57:32 GMT
Far Cry Primal just using the map from FC4 was a bold no fucks given move. Might be misremembering, but didn't they do the same with Far Cry: Blood Dragon? Yeah but Blood Dragon was fun
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Post by drhickman1983 on Feb 28, 2023 15:03:03 GMT
Did Blood Dragon reuse 3's map?
It had so many new buildings on it felt very different, and BD was a budget release, and was actually decent, so I have no major qualms.
I will admit I generally like the AC formula. But by the time it reached Valhalla the was too much sprawl. Origins was ace though, ticked the right boxes for me and moved the games forward. (still not played Odyssey).
Even with me liking the games, I have to admit the current slate is a bit much.
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Post by Vandelay on Feb 28, 2023 16:15:57 GMT
I might have that wrong. Wikipedia says the map is about half the size of FC3, but can't find mention if it is a section of the original game's map. I vaguely recall when there were complaints about Primal reusing FC4's map that people said Blood Dragon did the same, but perhaps I imagined it.
To be honest, I've never played it, despite owning it.
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Post by 😎 on Feb 28, 2023 16:17:12 GMT
I’ve enjoyed pretty much everything Ubi has put out over the years except for Watchdogs Legion and the Divison games. Nothing against the latter really, but they were too much of an MMO for me.
They’re not exactly setting the world on fire with their brilliance and creativity, for sure, but you at least know what you’re getting, and every once in a while they do something unexpected and new (that admittedly then gets folded into every game after that). They’re basically the Applebees/TGI Fridays/Chilis of gaming.
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Post by KD on Feb 28, 2023 19:23:09 GMT
PC before the xbox 360 generation (first R6 and Ghostrecon on pc) they seemed special, varied releases but that transition from 360 to the next gen on they lost all my attention.
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Post by Nemesis on Feb 28, 2023 20:32:22 GMT
Far Cry Primal just using the map from FC4 was a bold no fucks given move. Might be misremembering, but didn't they do the same with Far Cry: Blood Dragon? Dunno, but I wouldn’t be surprised !
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 28, 2023 20:40:29 GMT
Speaking of Far Cry, I tried 6 a couple of weeks ago during the free weekend and it was just essentially the same game that I'd played 3 times previously if we're going from FC3 as the where it became homogenised. I didn't give a shit about the story, gameplay felt incredibly similar and it didn't really look that great. I just remember playing and I didn't really feel anything, if anything I'd call it workman-like, it does a job but I couldn't feel any passion behind it and every cutscene I had I would instantly skip it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 28, 2023 21:03:24 GMT
I’ve enjoyed pretty much everything Ubi has put out over the years except for Watchdogs Legion and the Divison games. Nothing against the latter really, but they were too much of an MMO for me. It’s like my tedious ‘why I stopped watching masterchef’ analogy. Their output hasn’t got worse but 15 years of the same three games is probably enough for anyone.
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Post by motti82 on Feb 28, 2023 22:32:49 GMT
Bloody love The Divison games. I even left the second one installing this morning because I want to have a nose through the new season. I enjoyed the first Division game (the snowy Xmas setting combined with the abandoned urban environment was amazing) and bought the sequel on the strength of that, but never got around to play it Get The Division 2 played, well worth the time. The atmosphere is less claustrophobic but the gameplay and general improvements are really well done. I hope that they bring out another one, as they've set up a mobile-only version that I think is a tie-in with the upcoming film.
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 1, 2023 9:53:59 GMT
Another thumbs up here for Division 2 - thought it was excellent, probably the last Ubisoft game I put a decent amount of time in to.
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Post by Syrette on Mar 1, 2023 10:19:25 GMT
I’ve enjoyed pretty much everything Ubi has put out over the years except for Watchdogs Legion and the Divison games. Nothing against the latter really, but they were too much of an MMO for me. It’s like my tedious ‘why I stopped watching masterchef’ analogy. Their output hasn’t got worse but 15 years of the same three games is probably enough for anyone. I'm inclined to agree although it was Assassin's Creed morphing into super-lengthy RPGs that finished it for me. It's not like older ACs were short but I just don't have the time for 60 hour+ epics any more. The more linear, slimmed down games that are in the pipeline intrigue me, the amount of ACs confirmed and speculated about less so. At least they're all different in their own way (apparently).
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 1, 2023 10:22:05 GMT
I'm not trusting until the game is actually out, they originally said Valhalla was going to be smaller in response to Odyssey and look how that bullshit turned out.
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Post by Frog on Mar 1, 2023 10:23:22 GMT
Division 2 is a much better Vs AI experience than the first. Almost every single thing about it is better than the first other than the dark zone is terrible in comparison and the world just isn't as cool as the snowy New York.
Oh and no survival mode which was a huge miss.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 1, 2023 16:12:09 GMT
Division 2 was decent. Pretty funny of them to say it was a game with no political message. The game with an opening cutscene that stokes up fears of not owning a gun to protect yourself. Or an area in the game which has the actual US Constitution on display with an American flag draped above it which says 'PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH'
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Post by technoish on Mar 1, 2023 19:21:15 GMT
I do love what they've done with Rainbow Six - they've made a proper tactical/team work based shooter, where team work is massively rewarded.
And I didn't think Wildlands and breakpoint were copies - I think breakpoint was a step backwards and was more doing what derbs said and mashed other ubi game features into it. I didn't want ghost recon division, I wanted Wildlands evolved!!!
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Post by Zuluhero on Mar 1, 2023 19:59:05 GMT
I thought all the 2D Rayman games were really good, and another echo for the Division too.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 1, 2023 20:01:54 GMT
Wildlands was dumb fun, with equal emphasis on "dumb" and "fun."
I didn't like Breakpoint at all until they patched in the option to disable all the crap they'd added since Wildlands - tiered loot, survival mechanics, etc. - and then I enjoyed it much more.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 2, 2023 9:06:19 GMT
Massively agree with the 2 posts above about Breakpoint. I'm sure it wasn't everybodies cup of tea but it is still a great game. I discovered it after the rework to remove the gearscore bollocks so can't comment what it was like before that. However, since I played it before Wildlands, it made Wildlands feel more arcade-like instead of a tactical shooter.
If I'd done Wildlands first then maybe my opinion would be different but breakpoint was the better game for me. Its mission structure sucked ass though, they definitely fucked that up after Wildlands quite impressive setup.
Honestly couldn't give 2 fucks about the rest of their output lately. It all just feels like the same thing in a different setting.
Ass creed, 3rd person parkour old world melee combat stabathon Watchdogs, 3rd person parkour new world city melee combat shooter Factory, 1st person new world island combat shooter
All 3 are just the same game on a sliding scale with some shit changed between them and watchdogs feels like the transitional bridge
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Post by Derblington on Mar 2, 2023 9:10:07 GMT
I've also only played Breakpoint (at launch, so with all the gearscore stuff), with Wildlands in my backlog. I liked it quite a bit. I've wanted to start Wildlands a few times already this year, and then got sidetracked with new releases, but I'd like to get to it soon.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 2, 2023 9:24:50 GMT
I was surprised by how much I ended up enjoying Wildlands - even though you only have to clear two of the four cartel operation sections in order to beat the game, I wound up doing all of them quite willingly.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 2, 2023 9:27:02 GMT
I've also only played Breakpoint (at launch, so with all the gearscore stuff), with Wildlands in my backlog. I liked it quite a bit. I've wanted to start Wildlands a few times already this year, and then got sidetracked with new releases, but I'd like to get to it soon. It's massive! No joke I've been playing it on and off for nearly 3 years and still don't think I'm 50% and I'm not even wandering off to do side missions either.
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Post by Derblington on Mar 2, 2023 11:11:39 GMT
Just checked and I played it over a year, almost exactly to the day. Got the Plat though.
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Post by wunty on Mar 2, 2023 11:26:46 GMT
I bought Breakpoint a year or so back. I actually really liked what I played of it. Just too many games so I never went back to it.
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