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Post by aubergine on Mar 2, 2023 13:37:37 GMT
That Zelda game they made is on sale on PSN as of today.
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Post by Cappy on Mar 2, 2023 20:00:40 GMT
The PS4 version is currently £6 at CEX, if we're thinking of the same game.
I think you can hold out for even lower still though in a year or two.
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 2, 2023 20:03:59 GMT
It's crazy how they went from this cool company that gamers and the press were worried was going to get taken over and ruined is now looking like a pretty shitty place to work.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 3, 2023 11:30:08 GMT
Guess that means Microsoft will be buying them next.
I’m currently thinking Ubisoft have a serious game-naming problem. I thought Beyond Good and Evil was a terrible name at the time and still do, and I even went and bought the Zelda game they made today, but I still can’t remember what the fuck it’s called, it’s branding is just generic slopwords and surely plays a role in sales.
Say what you like about the Assassin’s Creed games, it’s a great name. Far Cry is a pretty good one too.
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Post by Cappy on Mar 3, 2023 13:53:52 GMT
The Tom Clancy brand was always a negative for me, it directly evokes associations with dull paperbacks somebody's dad might read.
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Post by wunty on Mar 3, 2023 14:36:16 GMT
I'm somebody's dad
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Post by Cappy on Mar 3, 2023 16:33:45 GMT
Do you have all your Tom Clancy novels? Plus the prerequisite worn out, stale tobacco reeking Dad chair with the faded indecipherable pattern and a stack of crumpled pornographic magazines under the seat cushion, that you think are perfectly hidden (they're not) but they do help support the seat in place of the broken and missing springs.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 3, 2023 17:55:04 GMT
Get rid of the Tom Clancy novels and the tobacco smell and that actually sounds like a pretty sweet setup.
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Post by 😎 on Mar 3, 2023 23:27:59 GMT
OG Clancy novels are fine. It’s the ghost written bullshit afterwards that’s universally terrible.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 4, 2023 3:02:57 GMT
The Tom Clancy brand was always a negative for me, it directly evokes associations with dull paperbacks somebody's dad might read. I never played a Splinter Cell, but it seemed to be a well-received series. They haven’t made one in forever, right? I dunno. Part of it is going to be my own waning interest in following every beat of what’s happening in gaming, but I still think their main issue seems to be terrible marketing and branding. I just had to look up “Immortals Fenyx Rising” to get the name right again. I’ve been waving my hand over it at the shops for years, but until someone mentioned it in this thread I didn’t realise (or recall) that it was Ubisoft. It’s been said, I think, but the timeline makes it look like the success of Assassin’s Creed 2 and Far Cry 3 made them settle on a formula and churn that out, at the expense of people like me who loved weirder stuff like Far Cry 2, until the company felt artistically hollow. I did get right into Child of Light, but that’s about it.
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 4, 2023 7:49:05 GMT
Chaos Theory and the Original Xbox version of Double Agent are fantastic games.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 4, 2023 8:52:51 GMT
aubergineIn their defence it was originally going to be called God's and Monsters, which is a wee bit more memorable. The energy drink brand put a stop to that, so they seemingly picked one of the joke suggestions for alternative names out of a hat.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 4, 2023 8:58:42 GMT
Chaos Theory and the Original Xbox version of Double Agent are fantastic games. Oh man, now I'm remembering the PC port of Double Agent and how it was AWFUL in every way whereas Chaos Theory was sublime.
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 4, 2023 9:30:58 GMT
Played the 360 version first which was disappointing then seeing comments about how the older gen version was much better with missions cut from the next gen version and replaced with those lame hideout missions.
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Post by KD on Mar 4, 2023 9:58:45 GMT
Spies vs mercs game mode was fun, first time I remember proximity chat.
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Post by LFace on Mar 4, 2023 10:13:42 GMT
Fenyx Rising was the best Ubisoft game I've played in many years. Enjoyed it enough as an almost launch PS5 title to full on Platinum it. After loving Creed Odyssey and being a Vikings fan I was looking forward to Valhalla. But man that game is a slog. Has no charm or depth and ever region is the same quest over and over. Creed is dead to me unless they revamp it.
I'll gladly take a sequel to Fenyx though that adds and improves upon the original. It didn't feel like a Ubisoft game as it was actually full of charm and wit. World design was pretty great as well.
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Post by Cappy on Mar 4, 2023 10:19:53 GMT
The Tom Clancy brand was always a negative for me, it directly evokes associations with dull paperbacks somebody's dad might read. I never played a Splinter Cell, but it seemed to be a well-received series. They haven’t made one in forever, right? I'm not sure, hiatus pending reboot? The series dropped out of my consciousness somewhere around Chaos Theory, maybe it's because I had the Gamecube version I lost interest. Double Agent was next? Or was there another one? I think there was an Xbox exclusive in there somewhere that changed things up a bit and was in development Hell.
There are other Ubisoft games in the Clancyverse but most seem to have disappeared from collective memory. GRAW, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (good grief). H.A.W.X. Er... High Atlitude Weapon... I don't know it's Ubisoft Clancyverse Ace Combat. There's also the Division of course and Rainbow 6.
I think you're onto something with some Ubisoft game titles, they play their own small part in making their catalogue indistinct and unmemorable.
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Post by malek86 on Mar 4, 2023 10:23:42 GMT
Ubisoft used to be the shit though, not even that long ago. Oh, and Splinter Cell was amazing back then. It still plays great imo. I guess the problem is that much like their other games, they kinda ran it to the ground, with four games in five years during the Xbox era. Double Agent in particular sucked, even the OG Xbox version pales in comparison to the previous games. By the time Conviction came out, nobody really cared anymore, and even fans hated the actionized take on the series. Blacklist was too little, too late... besides, it couldn't decide whether it was action or stealth. Fenyx Rising was the best Ubisoft game I've played in many years. Enjoyed it enough as an almost launch PS5 title to full on Platinum it. After loving Creed Odyssey and being a Vikings fan I was looking forward to Valhalla. But man that game is a slog. Has no charm or depth and ever region is the same quest over and over. Creed is dead to me unless they revamp it. I'll gladly take a sequel to Fenyx though that adds and improves upon the original. It didn't feel like a Ubisoft game as it was actually full of charm and wit. World design was pretty great as well. I keep thinking to the Immortals demo and how enemies seemed to take forever to die. And none of the difficulty levels seemed to have "reduced enemy health" (which really helped me complete Nier Automata). Is combat in the full game as much of a slog? It's pretty cheap nowadays, I might have to think about it eventually, assuming it's not given away for free at some point.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 4, 2023 10:33:07 GMT
It came to GP recently I believe. Well worth a play imo, and I don't remember combat feeling like much of a slog.
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Post by deekyfun on Mar 4, 2023 10:37:12 GMT
I kind of want to buy it (it's a tenner on Steam), but the reviews say it's a bit crashy.
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Post by Saul1138 on Mar 4, 2023 10:50:05 GMT
I played it on PS5 after people here recommended it. It’s a good game, but not great. I found the humour was pretty dire. Took a while to get over that, but the game was fine. You do find that the combat gets easier as the game progresses. I wasn’t aware it was an Ubisoft game until I picked it up. I think that the last game of theirs that I enjoyed was also Child of Light.
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Post by EMarkM on Mar 4, 2023 11:14:01 GMT
I just had to look up “Immortals Fenyx Rising” to get the name right again. I’ve been waving my hand over it at the shops for years, but until someone mentioned it in this thread I didn’t realise (or recall) that it was Ubisoft. I'm one of the people that have been talking about it, and: 1. I had no idea that it's an Ubi game. 2. I have to keep looking the name up myself, even though I'm playing it!
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Post by aubergine on Mar 4, 2023 11:38:20 GMT
I’m glad that some people liked it. I played it for about two hours then deleted it.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Mar 4, 2023 12:53:12 GMT
I just had to look up “Immortals Fenyx Rising” to get the name right again. I’ve been waving my hand over it at the shops for years, but until someone mentioned it in this thread I didn’t realise (or recall) that it was Ubisoft. I'm one of the people that have been talking about it, and: 1. I had no idea that it's an Ubi game. 2. I have to keep looking the name up myself, even though I'm playing it! Now that you mention it, it really is a name that slips the mind. Generic word + generic word + Phoenix but written differen... never mind it's another generic word.
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 4, 2023 13:07:43 GMT
I liked what I played but then better games came out and I forgot about it. Might go back to it at some point.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 4, 2023 16:48:45 GMT
Ubisoft used to be the shit though, not even that long ago. Oh, and Splinter Cell was amazing back then. It still plays great imo. I guess the problem is that much like their other games, they kinda ran it to the ground, with four games in five years during the Xbox era. Double Agent in particular sucked, even the OG Xbox version pales in comparison to the previous games. By the time Conviction came out, nobody really cared anymore, and even fans hated the actionized take on the series. Blacklist was too little, too late... besides, it couldn't decide whether it was action or stealth. Fenyx Rising was the best Ubisoft game I've played in many years. Enjoyed it enough as an almost launch PS5 title to full on Platinum it. After loving Creed Odyssey and being a Vikings fan I was looking forward to Valhalla. But man that game is a slog. Has no charm or depth and ever region is the same quest over and over. Creed is dead to me unless they revamp it. I'll gladly take a sequel to Fenyx though that adds and improves upon the original. It didn't feel like a Ubisoft game as it was actually full of charm and wit. World design was pretty great as well. I keep thinking to the Immortals demo and how enemies seemed to take forever to die. And none of the difficulty levels seemed to have "reduced enemy health" (which really helped me complete Nier Automata). Is combat in the full game as much of a slog? It's pretty cheap nowadays, I might have to think about it eventually, assuming it's not given away for free at some point. Blacklist was legitimately a return to form the for the Splinter Cell franchise IMO, really good missions, giving you chance to be the hunter as it were, essentially an evolution of the techno ninja that you were in Chaos Theory but with more options and manoeuvrability.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 4, 2023 16:54:49 GMT
It came to GP recently I believe. Well worth a play imo, and I don't remember combat feeling like much of a slog. Same as most games, it starts off a bit of a chore because they have to gate the fun off behind ‘progress’, quickly gets better as you unlock things and by the end you’re just obliterating everything. When you get the axe, it’s fine.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 4, 2023 18:01:09 GMT
When you get abilities too the combat has a better flow. While it shares the same combat as say AC Odyssey, in that game it has to be grounded, but in Immortals you're air juggling enemies in the air, knocking them away to do mid air stingers to follow up and keep the combo going and knock back again to then grapple towards the enemy and keep it going again before finishing in a big hammer slam. They let the shackles off and you could have a degree of player expression in combat that you just couldn't in AC. It also has the right approach to seeking out new gear sets. You only get new swords, axes, bows and a head and chest armor piece. And they have fundamental skill upgrades too, none of this 3% slashing damage shite you see in these other games. Was a breath of fresh air after Dying Light 2.
Anyone remember the Assassins Creed multiplayer? I enjoyed it quite a bit, surprised they haven't brought it back as I remember it being quite popular.
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Post by malek86 on Mar 4, 2023 18:47:18 GMT
Anyone remember the Assassins Creed multiplayer? I enjoyed it quite a bit, surprised they haven't brought it back as I remember it being quite popular. Probably because it was one of the main gimmicks for Unity, and we saw how that turned out. With Syndicate, they even made it a point to market it as a single player only game. Anyway, maybe they ready to try again, that's what Invictus appears to be.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 4, 2023 19:08:48 GMT
Anyone remember the Assassins Creed multiplayer? I enjoyed it quite a bit, surprised they haven't brought it back as I remember it being quite popular. Probably because it was one of the main gimmicks for Unity, and we saw how that turned out. With Syndicate, they even made it a point to market it as a single player only game. Anyway, maybe they ready to try again, that's what Invictus appears to be. To clarify, I'm not talking about Unity I'm talking about the competitive multiplayer they added from Brotherhood
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