Concord (no, not the plane)

Largely agree with everything here, although I did play the beta and as others have said it was well made but had some absolutely maddening ideas that sought to reduce your ability to have fun in the name of balance and the unimaginative character design. I also agree that there was an opportunity for them to delay to fix some easily fixable things but I guess it had to come out. I feel for the devs and I'm super intrigued regarding the post mortem of it.

Concord isn't just competing against like-for-like genre competitors. Unlike with PvP MMOs when LoL came out, who only had DoTA and that other shit game, this is a first person, shooter-based, online, hero-based, tactical and competitive game. Particularly with PC this isn't just a Marvel vs Overwatch vs Concord competition, it's competing for players from CS2, OW, Apex, Warzone, Destiny, Fortnite, Valorant, LoL/DoTA, etc. There are absolute behemoths of the industries it tried to poach from that have a fanbase that can't be swayed. Even the casual players at this point have likely invested enough time or money to be moved without it being groundbreaking or novel.

It's just way, way too late for this to have ever been a success on PC, and as I'm not a PS player, IDK but probably on there too.

The hook of cinematics obviously wasn't the thing that was going to entice the player base.

I don't think it's impossible to break ground on PC or elsewhere, but whatever does it is going to need a hook to make people interested, enough polish to make people feel that investing their time (however much they commit) is rewarded from the experience, and enough support to build momentum. Someone will do that. It's not going to launch and just dominate the market. It's going to launch with enough of everything to give people a reason to dabble and capitalise on that.

Marvel Rivals feedback has been pretty positive to date from what I've seen, but I do think it's a bit too close to Overwatch to really set the scene alight. It may be enough to just establish and support itself over time though, without fizzling away.

This is a sad day for first person, shooter-based, online, hero-based, tactical and competitive games I can tell you.

It's interesting on the back of this seeing the amount of comments from people requesting Sony do a Socom game instead. I don't recall those games ever having that kind of a following.

The SOCOM games sold millions of copies, I'd certainly have loved to see it return. It has an advantage over something like Concord in that it's not just a PvP game, it's also team co-op, a bit like one of the most successful games released this year.

Clearly bringing back Warhawk/Starhawk wouldn't have been a bad idea either, it would also offer something different that's not in a crowded market like hero shooters.

Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute.

IGN gave this and Star Wars Outlaws the same score???

www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-outlaws-review

www.ign.com/articles/concord-review

Fucking GLOL

Outlaws from my time with it is a 7, it would be an 8 but for some stupid design choices. It also had a day where I couldn't play for more than 5 minutes without a crash but a verify on the files has stopped it for now. I also noticed it takes a long time to get anything done on it, I have an hour free in the morning and I often don't feel like I achieve much in that time.

Well, yeah. One game is still playable no matter how many people are playing not so much for the other one.

Yeah I saw that yesterday and just imagined they'll probably be a support studio from now after laying a off a good amount of people. I hope not but for the investment put into them I don't think Sony are willing to fund them again for another 6 year project.

The 400 million number is from a gamer gate backing sex pest, so combined with the fact that that number is absolutely fucking stupid to the point it could only possibly be the case if someone was commuting actual serious financial crimes with the accounting I'm calling bullshit.

It also sounds like they pretty much had to make it twice

A third was for the licence from Disney.

400m on a new IP from a new team sounds like way way too much of a business risk. The suspected budget has only gone up over time as people look for headlines so I really doubt it, particularly as the only source is a former dev that sounded pretty scathing in general. "Positive toxicity" where nobody could question anything about the game, including the inclusion of pronouns for characters sounds like such an obvious klaxon call for the GG crowd.

And fuck Moriarty