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Post by Ulythium on Nov 23, 2024 16:13:47 GMT
I'm more excited about the Wales vs. South Africa game than tomorrow's England match. C'mon the Boks!
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2024 18:01:09 GMT
I've put the Scotland A game against Chile on.
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Post by Danno on Nov 23, 2024 18:19:21 GMT
This is fucking brutal
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 24, 2024 14:54:35 GMT
Scotland doing well against Australia early in the second half.
EDIT: Moments later, another try! 15-6 with the conversion to come.
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 24, 2024 15:15:27 GMT
22-6 with 12 minutes to play! zephro Feeling nervous yet?
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Post by zephro on Nov 24, 2024 17:12:15 GMT
22-6 with 12 minutes to play! zephro Feeling nervous yet? Weirdly that was one of the most composed competent Scottish displays. We actually just controlled and dominated that one, no fucking clinging on and doing bullshit. Australia never looked like they'd do anything, Scotland were wasteful but still 21 points ahead. Talisker was well deserved.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 24, 2024 17:25:04 GMT
This very one sided England match was worth watching for that pass.
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 24, 2024 18:55:36 GMT
Already mildly peeved by the BBC's framing of the England game as "ending the autumn on a high" - no disrespect to Japan, but they're not in the same tier as England's other opponents, all of whom won handily on their own visits to Twickenham.
Barring significant changes, the type of which Borthwick seems incapable of making, England will lose to France, Ireland, and Scotland in the Six Nations at an absolute bare minimum.
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Post by grey_matters on Nov 24, 2024 19:08:25 GMT
Already mildly peeved by the BBC's framing of the England game as "ending the autumn on a high" - no disrespect to Japan, but they're not in the same tier as England's other opponents, all of whom won handily on their own visits to Twickenham. Barring significant changes, the type of which Borthwick seems incapable of making, England will lose to France, Ireland, and Scotland in the Six Nations at an absolute bare minimum. I'm not sure about that. I'd have them 2nd with Scotland and Ireland fighting it out for third.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 24, 2024 19:25:58 GMT
Had to venture onto Xitter for this but it was worth it to watch again.
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Post by zephro on Nov 24, 2024 19:27:26 GMT
Already mildly peeved by the BBC's framing of the England game as "ending the autumn on a high" - no disrespect to Japan, but they're not in the same tier as England's other opponents, all of whom won handily on their own visits to Twickenham. Barring significant changes, the type of which Borthwick seems incapable of making, England will lose to France, Ireland, and Scotland in the Six Nations at an absolute bare minimum. I'm not sure about that. I'd have them 2nd with Scotland and Ireland fighting it out for third. Eh? I can't predict the 6N, but given what I've seen; Ireland and Scotland did better than England. Everyone got overpowered and wrecked by South Africa. England lost to Australia but Scotland entirely controlled their game against Oz, got 21pts ahead and just managed the Australian attack very well. Ireland are on a down from the high they've been on. But on what I've just seen France are likely 1st, Ireland 2nd with Scotland being third and England 4th. They're so one dimensional. Anyway autumn report for Scotland. Fiji, Chile and Portugal, we blooded a load of players and found more depth in more positions. None of them were tighthead though so we're still fucked fundamentally. South Africa they did fine, they manned up for 60 minutes, went kinda back and forth but who can cope with the Boks bench? I was expecting a tight game with Australia, but we actually just took them apart. Nullified their attack and maybe wasteful on attack but took a 21pt lead and kept it pretty much. It wasn't a mad back and forth game for once, we just dominated them in a way Scotland usually cannot do. So that's actually really heartening.
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Post by grey_matters on Nov 24, 2024 19:29:16 GMT
Slade's one-handed take and kick were lovely too.
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Post by grey_matters on Nov 24, 2024 19:36:39 GMT
I'm not sure about that. I'd have them 2nd with Scotland and Ireland fighting it out for third. Eh? I can't predict the 6N, but given what I've seen; Ireland and Scotland did better than England. Everyone got overpowered and wrecked by South Africa. England lost to Australia but Scotland entirely controlled their game against Oz, got 21pts ahead and just managed the Australian attack very well. Ireland are on a down from the high they've been on. But on what I've just seen France are likely 1st, Ireland 2nd with Scotland being third and England 4th. They're so one dimensional. Anyway autumn report for Scotland. Fiji, Chile and Portugal, we blooded a load of players and found more depth in more positions. None of them were tighthead though so we're still fucked fundamentally. South Africa they did fine, they manned up for 60 minutes, went kinda back and forth but who can cope with the Boks bench? I was expecting a tight game with Australia, but we actually just took them apart. Nullified their attack and maybe wasteful on attack but took a 21pt lead and kept it pretty much. It wasn't a mad back and forth game for once, we just dominated them in a way Scotland usually cannot do. So that's actually really heartening. Maybe we're both focusing on the negatives. Ireland were nowhere against New Zealand and pretty poor against Argentina, Australia is still to come (should win but I've a bad feeling). Farrell is gone now, Easterby should do OK but you never know. I'm shit at predicting most things though so this might be no different.
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 25, 2024 15:51:16 GMT
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 25, 2024 15:59:40 GMT
My prognostication skills are as crap when it comes to rugby as they are in every other regard, so take this with all the salt you can scrape together, but I don't see England coming higher than 4th place in the Six Nations.
They should beat Wales and Italy, who'll probably duke it out for the wooden spoon again. France and Ireland will be vying for the championship, even if a Grand Slam may not be on the cards for either. Scotland ought to be in the mix as well.
If the England captain really thinks that the national team is in "a very good place" after the autumn series, I reckon he'll be in for a rude awakening when they travel to Dublin in February.
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Post by zephro on Nov 25, 2024 18:25:29 GMT
That seems fair.
Wales are fucked, they are going to be duking it out with Italy for the wooden spoon. England seem like 4th if they can't work out how to start consistently scoring tries outside of Marcus Smith just being brilliant for a couple minutes.
France look imperious again, but it's France and they can blow hot and cold. Ireland are looking more mortal than they have been and Andry Farrell is on holiday with the Lions.
It could all come down to away games and be a year without a Grand Slam... So the fixture list is important.
Scotland we will know on the 2nd week. They have Ireland at home, if they can put together what they did against Australia or South Africa for 80 minutes there's a good chance they could win that. Then it's just winning one of France or England away, which they've done both of them in recent years so it's not outside the realms of possibility...
On the other hand Ireland have France and England at home, so you'd think they'd take those games. England's away games are Ireland and Wales. The Ireland one looks too much I'd say. France's away games are Ireland, Italy and England. I can see them losing the Ireland one...
So IF, big if, Scotland beat Ireland at home and Ireland beat France at home you could be going in to the last weekend with a bunch of teams hunting for 4 wins max.
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Post by elstoof on Nov 25, 2024 20:42:53 GMT
England seem like 4th if they can't work out how to start consistently scoring tries outside of Marcus Smith just being brilliant for a couple minutes. This England camp won’t be relying on Marcus Smith’s rugby brain to score points next year. We’ll be relying on drop goals and line out set pieces
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