スコットランド
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 25, 2021 19:23:42 GMT
As expected
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RobEG
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Post by RobEG on Nov 25, 2021 19:38:19 GMT
Just seen the score. We really are making hard work of this Conference League.
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Post by RobEG on Nov 25, 2021 19:39:26 GMT
Ah just seen we actually lost lol. So we are pretty much out then. How embarrassing.
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mikeck
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Post by mikeck on Nov 25, 2021 19:57:17 GMT
FFS. What a joke.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 25, 2021 20:03:43 GMT
Ah just seen we actually lost lol. So we are pretty much out then. How embarrassing. Nah, you'll beat Rennes. |
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Post by RobEG on Nov 25, 2021 20:04:54 GMT
But that would mean we finish 3rd still if Vitesse beat Mura though right?
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Post by Dougs on Nov 25, 2021 20:12:45 GMT
There is that. I kinda forgot about head to head.
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RobEG
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Post by RobEG on Nov 25, 2021 20:15:03 GMT
I guess we are a bit unfortunate not to go through on 10 points (should we win). But we don’t really deserve to as we’ve been so poor.
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jp
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Post by jp on Nov 25, 2021 20:18:51 GMT
I really don’t think it’s the worst thing in the world for Spurs to get knocked out.
It’s good to give the second string a run out in the group stages but does Kane really need the extra games going forward? I think a lot of the England squad have looked out of sorts this season and it’s got to be down (at least partly) to fatigue.
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Post by retro74 on Nov 25, 2021 20:22:45 GMT
I didn’t even know the Europa Conference League was a thing until I saw the Spurs headline on bbc sport
How long have we had it? Just this season?
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Post by Dougs on Nov 25, 2021 20:23:21 GMT
Much the same reason why I wasn't devastated to not qualify. But once in it, I'd want to win it.
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Post by baihu1983 on Nov 25, 2021 20:41:41 GMT
I didn’t even know the Europa Conference League was a thing until I saw the Spurs headline on bbc sport How long have we had it? Just this season? Yeah this is it's first season. Sanchez is beyond terrible. |
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Post by RobEG on Nov 25, 2021 20:44:36 GMT
Much the same reason why I wasn't devastated to not qualify. But once in it, I'd want to win it. Yeah this really. Apparently we do go through if we beat Rennes. Not sure how that works. Results against group winners maybe? |
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Post by retro74 on Nov 25, 2021 20:45:48 GMT
Madness to have another European comp when all the excitement has gone from European football due to over exposure already
Another shitty cash grab
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Post by Dougs on Nov 25, 2021 21:00:21 GMT
Really crap idea.
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RobEG
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Post by RobEG on Nov 25, 2021 21:20:28 GMT
To think the EL used to get stick for being a bit shit….
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Post by Frog on Nov 25, 2021 21:35:01 GMT
That's very much an English thing though, the EL is taken much more seriously in Europe.
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Nov 25, 2021 21:55:13 GMT
Do you not drop into the Scottish Premier League or something if you fail in the cash grab conference ?
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Post by baihu1983 on Nov 25, 2021 22:19:31 GMT
We aren't good enough for that
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RobEG
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Post by RobEG on Nov 25, 2021 22:30:49 GMT
That's very much an English thing though, the EL is taken much more seriously in Europe. Yeah my only real issue with the EL is the CL teams dropping in. Other than that it’s a decent competition. |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 25, 2021 22:36:23 GMT
Agreed. Stop that and it might be a proper competition again
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 26, 2021 9:17:10 GMT
Spurs pretty awful. Might be a second string, but all players bought by previous managers. Some for big money.
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kal
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Post by kal on Nov 26, 2021 10:21:42 GMT
We are terrible but we have the right people in place to address that. This season may be effectively over but plenty to look forward to, especially with Levy saying he’s ready to invest now.
Regarding the ECL, it is an absolute nightmare of a competition. Every single team you play, it’s the biggest game in the history of their club, and they play accordingly. It’s banana skin after banana skin, and you can’t win, because best case scenario you beat a team everyone expects you to beat and there’s no prestige or value in it. It’s not like the Europa League where there is some level of ‘second tier’ parity to many of the teams, and there’s a bit of prestige in winning it (plus a CL place). It really is a poisoned chalice. Horrible to be in.
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Post by Vortex on Nov 26, 2021 12:45:38 GMT
Agreed. Stop that and it might be a proper competition again But then how would all the bigger rich teams maintain their stranglehold? I really hate all this parachuting in from other tournaments malarkey. ECL is the same with teams papped out of the Europa league dropping in, it's bollocks, knockout competitions should not have a bonus round if you finish third in a group. Surely, if you've qualified for a competition, you're in a until knocked out, not moved to another because you couldn't cut it there. |
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Post by RobEG on Nov 26, 2021 13:09:44 GMT
I wouldn't say this season is over. There is still Eurpoean places up for grabs, League Cup and FA to come. If we can get our act together we could still have a decent season.
I guess the problem is that Conte doesn't get a lot of training time with his players between matches. Maybe being out of the ECL is a blessing on that front.
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kal
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Post by kal on Nov 26, 2021 18:31:47 GMT
The season is over because we’re really quite bad, and getting ‘our act together’ a) won’t happen and b) won’t be enough. Conte is a fix but not a quick one.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 26, 2021 18:34:59 GMT
We are terrible but we have the right people in place to address that. This season may be effectively over but plenty to look forward to, especially with Levy saying he’s ready to invest now. Regarding the ECL, it is an absolute nightmare of a competition. Every single team you play, it’s the biggest game in the history of their club, and they play accordingly. It’s banana skin after banana skin, and you can’t win, because best case scenario you beat a team everyone expects you to beat and there’s no prestige or value in it. It’s not like the Europa League where there is some level of ‘second tier’ parity to many of the teams, and there’s a bit of prestige in winning it (plus a CL place). It really is a poisoned chalice. Horrible to be in. It's weird. I don't remember the UEFA cup being thought of as having no prestige when there were three competitions. Maybe it's just my memory. |
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Post by kal on Nov 26, 2021 20:19:43 GMT
We are terrible but we have the right people in place to address that. This season may be effectively over but plenty to look forward to, especially with Levy saying he’s ready to invest now. Regarding the ECL, it is an absolute nightmare of a competition. Every single team you play, it’s the biggest game in the history of their club, and they play accordingly. It’s banana skin after banana skin, and you can’t win, because best case scenario you beat a team everyone expects you to beat and there’s no prestige or value in it. It’s not like the Europa League where there is some level of ‘second tier’ parity to many of the teams, and there’s a bit of prestige in winning it (plus a CL place). It really is a poisoned chalice. Horrible to be in. It's weird. I don't remember the UEFA cup being thought of as having no prestige when there were three competitions. Maybe it's just my memory. Because the European Cup was only for league winners and the Cup Winners was (funnily enough) cup winners, so the UEFA was made up of top teams. It wasn’t anything like the ECL. |
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Post by RobEG on Nov 26, 2021 22:36:29 GMT
The season is over because we’re really quite bad, and getting ‘our act together’ a) won’t happen and b) won’t be enough. Conte is a fix but not a quick one. That’s the spirit! Not expecting miracles but I think we can still do something positive this season with a bit of luck. |
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Post by kal on Nov 27, 2021 6:59:10 GMT
I’m all for positivity and obviously I hope for more, but I think our fan base needs a bit of a reality check on where we are right now. There is a lot of work to be done. I think our current situation is comparable with when Klopp joined Liverpool, and is with him I really wouldn’t expect any meaningful progress until his second season.
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