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Post by Dougs on Nov 16, 2021 12:50:40 GMT
Shearer was incredible. I assume it's because he chose heart over head, and therefore easier to ignore than someone winning titles all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 12:58:38 GMT
His issue was he is even more boring than Kane.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 16, 2021 13:00:45 GMT
It is true, though, to a certain extent. If he had gone to united, he would probably have gone down as the literal GOAT. In that team he would have scored all the goals. As amazing as he was, its really difficult to not think his career was a bit of a missed opportunity.
(I think people will also say that about Kane, fwiw)
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Post by kal on Nov 16, 2021 13:02:27 GMT
I think we just like to shit on our best players. I don’t Rooney as having higher status than Shearer despite his titles.
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 16, 2021 13:06:08 GMT
Well, at least Shearer did win the PL. Rooney a much different player than Kane and Shearer imo.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 16, 2021 13:06:42 GMT
If you asked me who had a better career, its rooney. If you asked me who I prefer, its shearer as he seems like a top guy who played during the era I look back on most fondly (and was, objectively, the best).
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Post by Dgzter on Nov 16, 2021 13:07:00 GMT
I laughed at this far more than I should have:
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 16, 2021 13:16:18 GMT
To be fair to United fans who only really watch United and not other teams, we can only go off when he plays against us. I’ve never seen him have a good game against United. He was okay in the 6-1 game, but I would have looked decent for Spurs that day. He’s always had the whiff of flat track bully about him
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 16, 2021 13:21:08 GMT
I’d like to add that Rooney in an England shirt was no better, he padded his goals by scoring against the minnows and playing so many games.
He Was obviously always up for the big games at United though
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Post by Dougs on Nov 16, 2021 13:23:25 GMT
Rooney was a revelation when he broke through. I was at Euro 2004 and he was sensational (until the inevitable injury).
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Post by kal on Nov 16, 2021 13:24:54 GMT
He hasn’t turned up for a final but he scores in all the big games. United is weirdly the one game he doesn’t seem to show up for, but again he shows up against all the big teams 😎
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 16, 2021 14:50:33 GMT
Rooney was a revelation when he broke through. I was at Euro 2004 and he was sensational (until the inevitable injury). Yeah he was, but one decent tournament in well over a decade speaks for itself. He just played so many games against so many crap teams that he eventually broke the record, his goals to game ratio is bang average |
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 16, 2021 14:51:39 GMT
He hasn’t turned up for a final but he scores in all the big games. United is weirdly the one game he doesn’t seem to show up for, but again he shows up against all the big teams 😎 Won't disagree I was just trying to explain why united fans might feel that way Also see Raheem Sterling edit: also I got the sly dig  |
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 16, 2021 14:54:31 GMT
Also just watched the Spurs 6-1 highlights and guess who was at fault for 3 of the goals?
Oh yes Mr England himself Harry Maguire....
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 16, 2021 14:55:42 GMT
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Post by Zomoniac on Nov 16, 2021 14:56:26 GMT
Rooney was a revelation when he broke through. I was at Euro 2004 and he was sensational (until the inevitable injury). Yeah he was, but one decent tournament in well over a decade speaks for itself. He just played so many games against so many crap teams that he eventually broke the record, his goals to game ratio is bang average I think it says volumes about the wasted potential that there seemed a time when they played together that Rooney and Ronaldo would be two career-long world beaters. The younger one is now retired after a couple of seasons playing in midfield for Derby, the older one is Man Utd’s top scorer this season. |
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 16, 2021 15:44:01 GMT
I'd still say Rooney had a very long and very successful career tbf.
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Post by patrick on Nov 16, 2021 21:34:48 GMT
Wales sound decent against Belgium.
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Nov 16, 2021 21:44:19 GMT
Yes. Good stuff. Belgium made a game of it even though they didn't need to. Just need to avoid Italy or Scotland now Scotland and Wales are seeded so they are at home in the one legged semi final. |
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Post by mikew1985 on Nov 16, 2021 21:54:39 GMT
What is the point in internationals like this? I think my pub team could give San Marino a decent match. I know this was yesterday but for the point see Iceland and more recently to a lesser degree, Luxembourg. Total minnows who have improved hugely in the last 15 - 20 years |
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Post by Zomoniac on Nov 16, 2021 23:50:54 GMT
Quite. There were probably people after Zaire got done 9-0 in the 74 World Cup saying African teams should have to play off against Euro teams for qualification. 16 years on you’ve got Cameroon beating Argentina and getting to a quarter final.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 23:52:56 GMT
Come back and make your point in 16 years when San Marino make a major tournament.
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 17, 2021 10:24:13 GMT
I think you should need to have at least a certain quota of players who are professional footballers. Looks like San Marino have 1, who plays in the lowest professional league in Italy. It's pretty silly otherwise. Also, why don't all these other places like Monaco, VC, Isle of Man, Jersey, etc. have teams? Might as well for more ridiculousness.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 17, 2021 10:32:43 GMT
The issue isnt so much that you play shit teams in qualifying, its expanding the competition so that they start making it into the finals, making the group stages a bit of a procession.
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Post by grey_matters on Nov 17, 2021 10:48:34 GMT
It's fine the way it is. Nations League for multiple games at your level and the championship qualifying groups because its fucking football. Its a rare chance for players to match themselves against a Xavi or Mbappé and for associations to earn some money. Even the expanded finals have been very good recently, there are lots of worthwhile stories in football that aren't about the top 3/4 teams.
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 17, 2021 10:55:51 GMT
There is the story of can San Marino score a goal, and the answer was yes, against Poland.
They conceded 46.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 17, 2021 11:52:51 GMT
The issue isnt so much that you play shit teams in qualifying, its expanding the competition so that they start making it into the finals, making the group stages a bit of a procession. Exactly that. The Euros of old, with 16 teams were tough as nails. Even 24 was Rock hard. Daft expanding them. |
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Post by grey_matters on Nov 17, 2021 13:04:04 GMT
The issue isnt so much that you play shit teams in qualifying, its expanding the competition so that they start making it into the finals, making the group stages a bit of a procession. Exactly that. The Euros of old, with 16 teams were tough as nails. Even 24 was Rock hard. Daft expanding them. Just 8 teams in 88/92. I think I agree in general but euro2020 was pretty great. If they continue that way, I'll switch my opinion. |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 17, 2021 13:32:04 GMT
So how many people have died so far for Qatar to host this?
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 17, 2021 14:06:58 GMT
So how many people have died so far for Qatar to host this? Doesn't matter, it's just poor Indians/Filipinos etc. Their lives don't matter when billions are involved. |
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