wunty
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Post by wunty on Jun 3, 2024 22:45:15 GMT
I genuinely think it’s because my expectations are so low by that point I end up enjoying it
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 4, 2024 3:00:03 GMT
Do you prefer The Hobbit movies to LotR? And if so, NO!!
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otto
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Post by otto on Jun 4, 2024 9:27:44 GMT
So I was a bit underwhelmed by Godzilla Minus One or whatever it's called. Was expecting something a lot better from the hype (I really should have learned by now). Basically your usual Godzilla film with some very hammy acting and a subtext that seems to have surprised some people but well it's never been much of a subtle subtext has it? and still isn't.
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Post by Binky on Jun 4, 2024 10:15:43 GMT
So I was a bit underwhelmed by Godzilla Minus One or whatever it's called. Was expecting something a lot better from the hype (I really should have learned by now). Basically your usual Godzilla film with some very hammy acting and a subtext that seems to have surprised some people but well it's never been much of a subtle subtext has it? and still isn't. Careful, they'll come for you. Honestly, I enjoyed it for what it was but what it was was a Jaws inspired Godzilla movie. |
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 4, 2024 10:29:06 GMT
I absolutely hate all kong and Godzilla movies. Anything with giant robots and monsters like pacific rim.
However due to it being Japanese and great reviews I gave minus one a go. Whilst it wasn’t amazing it was infinitely better than any Hollywood version. That was just down to the characters and the human story behind it. Godzilla still sucks balls and it’s a really dull monster.
Maybe a 7/10.
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Post by jono62 on Jun 4, 2024 10:30:49 GMT
JP is ok but I'm more into Billy and The Cloneasaurus. Pfft, nothing beats Tammy and the T-Rex. |
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Post by grey_matters on Jun 4, 2024 10:40:05 GMT
I don't think I'm mega bothered with palaeontological accuracy in my family horror film about cloned dinosaurs. /marks card |
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 10:48:31 GMT
Jurassic Park 3 - 3/5
So I guess I'm watching all the Jurassic Park/World movies now.
An improvement over Lost World. Much more fun, less mean spirited, and generally more enjoyable. Helped by a much better script and the presence of Sam Neil. Yes, some of the characters are annoying, but not dreadfully so, and at least they all serve the plot and are different heights. Buff William H Macy really creeped me out though. The set pieces are better too, especially the aviary sequence: the pterodactyl emerging from the fog is genuinely creepy. Talking to raptors with a whistle is dumb and pointless, and they weren't much of a threat. Spinosaurus looks kinda goofy, and they should have used Compies again as they're cool. Lacks the Spielberg magic, but Joe Johnston's heart is clearly in it and he does a very competent job.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 11:04:23 GMT
Red Dragon (dvd) - 2/5
A perfectly competent, glossy, stupid, serial killer procedural with an absolutely insane cast. Ed Norton has bleached hair which is really cool and he's great. Harvey Keitel and Philip Seymour Hoffman have absolutely nothing to do and I have no idea why they are there (money). PSH at least gets glued to a wheelchair, set of fire and pushed down a hill. Anthony Hopkins hams it up even more as Lector and has a ponytail at the start which is genuinely terrifying. Fiennes does his job but the Emily Watson character is so corny. It's really, really stupid, the big breakthrough about how the killer is choosing his victims is blindingly obvious from the start. Other than that it has some quite nasty bits and is entertaining, but compared to Manhunter and Silence of a Lambs its a joke and you can tell the studio is milking it big time.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 4, 2024 11:32:18 GMT
Jurassic Park 3 - 3/5So I guess I'm watching all the Jurassic World movies now. Don't do it! |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 4, 2024 11:55:06 GMT
Jurassic Park 3 - 3/5So I guess I'm watching all the Jurassic Park/World movies now. An improvement over Lost World. Much more fun, less mean spirited, and generally more enjoyable. Helped by a much better script and the presence of Sam Neil. Yes, some of the characters are annoying, but not dreadfully so, and at least they all serve the plot and are different heights. Buff William H Macy really creeped me out though. The set pieces are better too, especially the aviary sequence: the pterodactyl emerging from the fog is genuinely creepy. Talking to raptors with a whistle is dumb and pointless, and they weren't much of a threat. Spinosaurus looks kinda goofy, and they should have used Compies again as they're cool. Lacks the Spielberg magic, but Joe Johnston's heart is clearly in it and he does a very competent job. Less mean spirited?! The leads put people in mortal danger through sheer single minded deceit. |
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 11:57:00 GMT
That’s a JP staple though! Overall the tone is far lighter. The set pieces aren’t as gruelling and dinosaurs aren’t getting tortured.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 4, 2024 12:00:56 GMT
I dunno, JP1's main point was hubris, JP2 never felt that mean spirited in my eyes. JP3 felt like a movie that didn't need to be made and pretty much all the characters bar Sam Neil were incredibly unsympathetic. Now JW, that was indeed incredibly mean spirited specifically with the death of the assistant. JW2 and 3 just exist and I couldn't even say if they were mean spirited or whatnot as they just washed over me.
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Post by zisssou on Jun 4, 2024 12:36:37 GMT
I don't think I've watched 2 or 3 for many years.. and for good reason.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 12:39:36 GMT
I mean people being put in large amounts of unnecessary peril is a staple.
JP shouldn’t be mean spirited is my point. JP2 opens with a little girl getting torn to shreds with a cut to Jeff Goldblum yawning. Every set piece has a very nasty edge.
The parents lying to get their son back as a last resort doesn’t make them particularly unsympathetic to me.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 12:40:05 GMT
I don't think I've watched 2 or 3 for many years.. and for good reason. Yeah they’re entirely unnecessary. |
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Post by zisssou on Jun 4, 2024 13:00:24 GMT
I haven't even watch the sequels to Jurassic World. I just looked up the premise to Dominion.. "with dinosaurs now living alongside humans around the world" wtf! It's like Planet of the Apes.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 4, 2024 13:02:36 GMT
It's a shame Joe Johnson hasn't made more films. He is one of the closest to Spielberg's non-serious tone, even if he's generally not as good. There aren't many directors that are like it.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 4, 2024 13:05:40 GMT
I mean people being put in large amounts of unnecessary peril is a staple. JP shouldn’t be mean spirited is my point. JP2 opens with a little girl getting torn to shreds with a cut to Jeff Goldblum yawning. Every set piece has a very nasty edge. The parents lying to get their son back as a last resort doesn’t make them particularly unsympathetic to me. But their lying gets LOTS of people killed in the most horrendous way. They're trying to save their son but they, especially Tea Leoni's character, repeatedly puts everyone's lives in danger even after people have died. It's baffling. Also the little girl isn't torn to shreds. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 4, 2024 13:13:29 GMT
This is literally the only positive thing from the third movie
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2024 13:19:49 GMT
I mean people being put in large amounts of unnecessary peril is a staple. JP shouldn’t be mean spirited is my point. JP2 opens with a little girl getting torn to shreds with a cut to Jeff Goldblum yawning. Every set piece has a very nasty edge. The parents lying to get their son back as a last resort doesn’t make them particularly unsympathetic to me. But their lying gets LOTS of people killed in the most horrendous way. They're trying to save their son but they, especially Tea Leoni's character, repeatedly puts everyone's lives in danger even after people have died. It's baffling. I'd 100% do all of that to save my daughter. |
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Post by Frog on Jun 4, 2024 13:23:31 GMT
*adds to notes*
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 13:27:37 GMT
I mean people being put in large amounts of unnecessary peril is a staple. JP shouldn’t be mean spirited is my point. JP2 opens with a little girl getting torn to shreds with a cut to Jeff Goldblum yawning. Every set piece has a very nasty edge. The parents lying to get their son back as a last resort doesn’t make them particularly unsympathetic to me. But their lying gets LOTS of people killed in the most horrendous way. They're trying to save their son but they, especially Tea Leoni's character, repeatedly puts everyone's lives in danger even after people have died. It's baffling. Also the little girl isn't torn to shreds. Meh! I can’t even be bothered to climb the hill let alone die on it! |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 4, 2024 13:28:32 GMT
C'mon! FIGHT ME!!!
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wunty
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Post by wunty on Jun 4, 2024 13:48:13 GMT
Let's go Harry! Hold him down!
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 13:55:15 GMT
Ok, their lying only gets 3 people killed? And actually they’re all Mercs who knew exactly what they were getting themselves in to, so I guess their lying made no difference?
Having to call out the army AND the navy is an enormous waste of tax payers money though.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 4, 2024 13:56:51 GMT
I guess the mercs wouldn't have been as up for it if they knew their client could get them a discount on bathroom tiles.
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Post by wunty on Jun 4, 2024 14:11:39 GMT
There's no debating the fact that Leoni and Macy are cunts. Still a good film though. Again, that's compared to the others, that are all shite. Apart from the first one. JP has always see-sawed tonally, but it's only the first film where it actually works. The likes of Jurassic World has that horrible moment where the girl tasked with looking after the kids gets killed in a very over the top and most unpleasant way. I don't mind characters getting brutal drawn out demises if they actually deserve it, but that was a bit much. The second and third JW films I can't even remember that much of. They were pretty shit.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 4, 2024 14:16:44 GMT
I don’t remember that. Was going to watch JW with the boy tonight but might subject him to Hook instead.
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Post by wunty on Jun 4, 2024 14:42:54 GMT
YMMV but I thought it was a bit much on both viewings.
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