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Post by 111 on Jan 18, 2022 19:06:07 GMT
Playing through the first one for the first time via Legendary Edition on Game Pass. The conversations, the citadel, all very good in a KOTORy way. But my god the combat... the Mako bits... and WTF is with the clicking in and out of planets and galaxies on that map. I was staggered to see how bad the combat was having read it's been *improved* in the Legendary Edition compared to the original. I've also not been particularly enamoured with most of the rest of the environments.
Also am I missing something or is there no way to have other characters automatically equip better equipment for themselves? I get annoyed enough having to keep manually equipping new guns, upgrades, armour etc. for my own character let alone six more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 19:08:28 GMT
What games have characters automatically equip better equipment? The closest I can think of is The Elder Scroll, and even then you have to give them the better weapons and armor. Which is essentially the same thing.
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Post by 111 on Jan 18, 2022 19:31:33 GMT
It just seems to add up to way too much fiddling to me. I go on a mission, which includes getting given a shit-ton of new equipment along the way, and to work out whether any of it is better than any of what is already in use I've got to compare the new stuff with the equipped items of seven different characters, each of whom have four weapon slots, each of which has around three upgrade slots - plus armour (including upgrades), grenade upgrades, omni-tool types...
I'm not a big fan "does this new axe have more damage points than my existing axe" in any game, which is just a subjective thing admittedly, but having to do it across seven people just seems extreme.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 18, 2022 22:21:10 GMT
The actual gameplay gets much better with 2 and 3. Just enjoy the story in the first one. I agree that the equipment stuff is pretty annoying. I usually just give them whatever I most like the look of
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Post by Phattso on Jan 18, 2022 22:56:41 GMT
Yeah, the game was so oddly balanced that it's really only their skills (which are triggered from the wheel) that matter moment to moment rather than MIN-MAXing their gear I think? Not that it matters - I always run through with my two faves once I have them, and fuck the rest.  |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 18, 2022 23:01:33 GMT
Yeah, the game was so oddly balanced that it's really only their skills (which are triggered from the wheel) that matter moment to moment rather than MIN-MAXing their gear I think? Not that it matters - I always run through with my two faves once I have them, and fuck the rest.  Garrus and Tali! |
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Post by Phattso on Jan 18, 2022 23:04:24 GMT
Wrex will fuck you up!
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Post by RadicalRex on Jan 18, 2022 23:56:54 GMT
WTF is with the clicking in and out of planets and galaxies on that map. What's so bad about that? It's 100 times better than the waste of time that is 2's and 3's toy model spaceship nonsense. |
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jan 19, 2022 3:24:07 GMT
Some patches and mods for Legendary Edition:
Alliance Uniform Consistency brings the human Alliance uniforms from 3 over to 1 for a sense of continuity, although this is slightly marred by the pre-rendered intro video for 2 where they couldn't be changed.
Saren Stages is a fantastic effort on the part of the guy who created it. It gives Saren Arterius a couple of new looks throughout the course of ME1, based on the robes he wore in his concept art, discarding them later for an updated appearance with plot relevance.
Normandy Rapid Transit adds the Normandy interior as a destination at the Citadel transit hubs, allowing you to bypass the elevator rides.
*No more black teeth for Joker.
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Post by spacein_vader on Jan 19, 2022 7:43:55 GMT
WTF is with the clicking in and out of planets and galaxies on that map. What's so bad about that? It's 100 times better than the waste of time that is 2's and 3's toy model spaceship nonsense. At least in 2 you could probe Uranus. |
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Post by 111 on Jan 19, 2022 9:43:50 GMT
WTF is with the clicking in and out of planets and galaxies on that map. What's so bad about that? It's 100 times better than the waste of time that is 2's and 3's toy model spaceship nonsense. It's just a PITA interface. I'm not saying 2 and 3 might not be even worse - I've not got to them yet. |
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Post by lexw on Jan 19, 2022 11:47:52 GMT
It's just a PITA interface. It is. I've played all the MEs countless times (except 3, that's just twice), but hadn't played ME1 for a few years, and playing ME:LE was quite vexed with how poorly set up that interface is (especially how easy it is to end up back on the bridge whilst just trying to get to the main galaxy map). 2 and 3 I think are slightly better (despite "toy spaceship" stuff as you will see), but there are still issues. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 11:55:54 GMT
It's interesting that every woman in the galaxy has absolutely perfect breasts now. I wonder if there's some kind of nano surgery they get.
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Post by HairyArse on Jan 21, 2022 15:53:18 GMT
I’ve just started 1 for the first time. Just landed at the citadel. When does it get good? So far it’s very by-the-numbers, the acting is wooden and the controls are fiddly as fuck. The onboarding experience is also extremely poor.
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Post by steifybobbins on Jan 21, 2022 16:27:56 GMT
I played ME1 for the first time last year and fully expected to skip it after a few hours. By the time I'd finished all 3 back to back I had a soft spot for 1. It definitely gets better as it goes along. Playing the trilogy right through was glorious. They each have little issues bit all told it's s phenomenal package.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jan 21, 2022 19:12:11 GMT
I’ve just started 1 for the first time. Just landed at the citadel. When does it get good? So far it’s very by-the-numbers, the acting is wooden and the controls are fiddly as fuck. The onboarding experience is also extremely poor. Once you become a Spectre it opens up |
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Post by 111 on Jan 21, 2022 21:16:45 GMT
Although the things it opens up into are a pretty mixed bag. The Eden Prime opening is a particularly poor experience admittedly so don't judge it on that alone, but personally I found the hours I spent in the citadel itself between Eden Prime and the rest of the game to be the highlight, rather than it getting progressively better throughout.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 25, 2022 0:47:30 GMT
After the release of the Legendary Edition, I've noticed a number of streamers finish The Trilogy and then move on to Andromeda for the first time, and there seems to be a common theme emerging where they go in to it not knowing much about the premise or where exactly it fits in the timeline. Because the game itself doesn't do a great job of establishing it beyond what you read in the opening text crawl, then lets you discover stuff in Codex entries in order to work out a lot of it. One of the most common reactions is "Wait, what is The Nexus? Why is it there before the Arks?"
It's made me think that the Andromeda Initiative briefing videos they released in the promotional run up to the game should have been included in an Extras menu within the game itself.
Come to think of it, I might write up a guide for how to best prepare for playing it for the first time, or how to get the best experience of it now if you're thinking of replaying it for the first time since it launched. The official patches did fix a lot of issues, but there are a ton more that had to be fixed by modders.
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Post by spacein_vader on Mar 25, 2022 6:50:57 GMT
Andromeda may not be as bad as some people say but the tired face line is still an abomination.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 29, 2022 0:19:37 GMT
So, Turian face textures in Andromeda. Everyone said there was something wrong with the way they looked. They just didn't generally look like the way they'd been established in the original Mass Effect Trilogy, where the Turians had a wide range of skin tones, like Garrus grey, Nihlus reddish-brown and Chellick ivory. Some in Andromeda were oddly bleached and washed-out looking, others were a muddy green.
Modding community to the rescue! When they looked into it, it seems as though they don't actually appear in game as they were originally intended to.
There are currently two different mods on Nexus to fix this.
So let's have a look at the difference with some shots I just took:
Tiran Kandros
Vanilla Unmodded:
Turian Makeover Mod:
Turians Restored Mod:
Sid Nyx
Vanilla Unmodded:
Turian Makeover Mod:
Turians Restored Mod:
Mariette Rhensus
Vanilla Unmodded:
Turian Makeover:
Turians Restored:
So, as you can see with Kandros, both are improvements. Makeover gives his plates a lot more definition and he's more grey than bleached-bone coloured. With Restored, not only is he darkened further, there's a hint of red creeping into the edges of his texture as well.
With Sid, the Makeover gives her the same better defined plates as Kandros, and brings her more into line with the way Nyreen looked in ME3: Omega. The Restored mod pushes her texture to another place entirely, and her red markings start to get lost in the much darker colour.
Mariette Rhensus started out with a green-brown colour, and Makeover changes it to a similar grey to Sid and Nyreen. Restored pushes her into red territory again.
So I'm going to stick with Makeover for the time being, even though it hasn't had any updates in 5 years. I feel like it makes them look closer to the way they appeared in The Trilogy. I'm keeping an eye on the Restored mod though, it's only been out for a week at this point, and it also provides an optional update for Vetra, who isn't affected by the Makeover mod.
Side note: Looking at those screenshots through my anti-blue-light glasses with the yellow lenses makes the differences look a lot more pronounced. Starting to see why people play around with Reshades that mess with certain channels.
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Post by baihu1983 on May 11, 2022 12:33:07 GMT
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 11, 2022 22:39:02 GMT
Of the four endings to ME3, Refusal was the best one.
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Post by Danno on May 11, 2022 22:42:22 GMT
Haven't we suffered enough
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 16:26:42 GMT
Dead mercenary should poo after death. For realism.
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 17, 2022 16:04:29 GMT
There was a quest in Andromeda on Kadara that couldn't be properly finished due to bugs. The MEA Fixpack sorted it out, and now you can not only finish the quest but have Ryder experience a hallucinogenic trip.
Even more weirdly, when I did this yesterday there was some random Salarian standing in the water.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 23, 2022 16:35:57 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Nov 7, 2022 19:11:14 GMT
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Post by Blue_Mike on Nov 7, 2022 23:31:18 GMT
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Post by simple on Nov 30, 2022 16:40:00 GMT
Legendary Edition is one of December’s PS+ freebies if you were too stingey to buy it
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