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Post by Frog on Jun 27, 2022 21:32:49 GMT
If it's anything other than a full single player experience like GTA V I won't have any interest in it. Don't think the gameplay is good enough for it to be a multiplayer game and GTA online was pants. It gets away with it in single player.
Wouldn't mind the game being 2 player co-op though
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Post by mikeck on Jun 27, 2022 23:21:14 GMT
2 player co-op could definitely work. Be great to be dropped into a co-op session sharing a large map and doing separate parts of a shared mission.
They showed with Heists that they can make co-op missions work very well.
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Post by Lizard on Jun 27, 2022 23:55:36 GMT
If I was Rockstar's dad I would order them to complete a full single player game before they are even allowed to think about the tiniest amount of multiplayer anything. But I'm not, and they won't, and we all know where the money's at.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 28, 2022 6:26:46 GMT
If I do end up getting this, I'd be quite happy if the single player (assuming there is one) and whatever online now they have are separate installs, so I don't have constant updates for content I'm unlikely to touch.
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Post by darkling on Jun 28, 2022 8:47:40 GMT
If I play another GTA game (or any R* open world game for that matter) I'd want to see a complete departure from the stale mission structure they currently use for single player.
If I could design a GTA game I'd want it to be The Ultimate Crimelord Simulator™. The aim of the game is to gain 100% influence across the whole map, at which point you'd have the police and all other people of importance in your pocket.
Influence would be gained by gaining the favour of key characters, or by buying certain property and businesses.
The map would be littered with fully functioning businesses (from corner shops, to banks, all with staff routines) all of which can be robbed at any point in freeplay, in any way you choose (think Hitman) as long as you think your plan of attack and crew is good enough.
You can find and recruit new crew members (some with special skills) from across the map, as well as gain the influence of people by doing favours (freeform missions). This could be anyone from a security guard to the mayor, who will look the other way when instructed, or allow you special privileges in other ways.
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Post by zephro on Jun 28, 2022 8:52:54 GMT
I just want them to remake GTA: London essentially. Just do something a bit different, I dunno maybe have a lady as the pov character? Shake it up a bit.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 28, 2022 9:00:27 GMT
darklingIf done well that approach could be good, but making it so freeform can also lead to games being a bit wooly and potentially repetitive. I like the games having a narrative, and if it's replaced with a sandbox it could get lost. I'm just having flashbacks to Mafia 3.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 28, 2022 9:01:19 GMT
God, can you imagine if they had a female lead character. It would be harangued from all corners.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jun 28, 2022 9:01:39 GMT
If I play another GTA game (or any R* open world game for that matter) I'd want to see a complete departure from the stale mission structure they currently use for single player. If I could design a GTA game I'd want it to be The Ultimate Crimelord Simulator™. The aim of the game is to gain 100% influence across the whole map, at which point you'd have the police and all other people of importance in your pocket. Influence would be gained by gaining the favour of key characters, or by buying certain property and businesses. The map would be littered with fully functioning businesses (from corner shops, to banks, all with staff routines) all of which can be robbed at any point in freeplay, in any way you choose (think Hitman) as long as you think your plan of attack and crew is good enough. You can find and recruit new crew members (some with special skills) from across the map, as well as gain the influence of people by doing favours (freeform missions). This could be anyone from a security guard to the mayor, who will look the other way when instructed, or allow you special privileges in other ways. That's basically Saints Row 3. The mayor is Burt Reynolds and you can recruit him
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Post by dogbot on Jun 28, 2022 9:02:09 GMT
God, can you imagine if they had a female lead character. It would be harangued from all corners. "wHY ArE YoU poliTicISinG ARE gaeMZ?"
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 28, 2022 9:02:16 GMT
darklingIf done well that approach could be good, but making it so freeform can also lead to games being a bit wooly and potentially repetitive. I like the games having a narrative, and if it's replaced with a sandbox it could get lost. I'm just having flashbacks to Mafia 3. Yeah I'm in agreement, there's no replacement for a well thought out and scripted structure.
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Post by zephro on Jun 28, 2022 9:20:28 GMT
God, can you imagine if they had a female lead character. It would be harangued from all corners. That's basically why it'd be interesting though ¬_¬
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 28, 2022 9:24:01 GMT
Imagine if the central character is a trans woman. That would be quite some fallout.
Or just have the lead character be motivated by a Dog Day Afternoon kinda scenario.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 28, 2022 9:26:10 GMT
The fact that GTA5 had 3 main characters and non of them were female surprised me at the time. A female protagonist in the GTA universe would be really interesting.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 28, 2022 9:28:44 GMT
Imagine if the central character is a trans woman. That would be quite some fallout. Or just have the lead character be motivated by a Dog Day Afternoon kinda scenario. I'd be keen to see a GTA game where the main character is the butt of all the usual jokes and misogyny, and how they could play with that.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 28, 2022 9:28:52 GMT
If they have a character who isn't male and straight and cis they'd be accused of being SJWs.
I always thought there were hints that Trevor wasn't exactly totally straight but he was such a psychopath it got lost.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 28, 2022 9:30:18 GMT
Agree about Trevor.
Imagine being a female character and walking past a construction site, getting cat-calls, etc. I think it would be great.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 28, 2022 9:40:54 GMT
Honestly I don't think it would viewed in the positive light you think it would be. The amount of thinkpieces would be enough to power the sun for a millennium.
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Post by snackplissken on Jun 28, 2022 9:51:42 GMT
I want to play as a white person getting upset about representation.
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Post by snackplissken on Jun 28, 2022 9:52:24 GMT
And gets annoyed at women who hold all the cards, so calls them terfs.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 28, 2022 9:56:19 GMT
So a Lozza Fox Sim?
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Post by Syrette on Jun 28, 2022 10:35:21 GMT
Hard to imagine a world where Rockstar wouldn't develop a single player GTA that wasn't an afterthought to the next GTA Online.
Ideally they'd just develop and release them separately (and I'd imagine Take Two have the funds to do so...).
Or failing that - scrap GTA6 and re-reveal and release Agent after all!
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Post by hedben on Jun 28, 2022 11:46:46 GMT
Genuine question - are people who only like single player GTA V in it for the story or the gameplay? Because the writing in more recent GTA Online content (like The Contract missions) is far, far better than it was at launch.
I've put hundreds of hours into GTA Online so I, personally, wouldn't mind a sequel that brings some of the online elements into the main campaign. I think it could be done well, in a way that's not too far from other popular online multiplayer games, without sacrificing the story and characters that people associate with GTA 3-5. And if your concern is idiots ruining the experience for you by griefing, or gaining an advantage with Shark cards, there will always be an option to go offline for some or all of it depending on your preference. Private lobbies have been an option in GTA Online for years, for exactly that reason.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 28, 2022 11:54:15 GMT
If they have a character who isn't male and straight and cis they'd be accused of being SJWs. I always thought there were hints that Trevor wasn't exactly totally straight but he was such a psychopath it got lost. Quite a lot of hints that he was... well, into anything tbh. He was a complete deviant. There was at least one cut when you switched to him of him cuddled up in bed with Floyd, or standing over him with Floyd dressed in Debra's clothes. I suspect much of that passed the anti-SJW mob by, though. Bit too subtle for them.
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Post by Tuffty on Jun 28, 2022 17:50:17 GMT
If the main character is female get ready for the amount of comments of 'Grand Theft Woke' to poison the discussion on social media, comment threads, forums, just everywhere really. Already happens to the smallest indie titles, nevermind a long anticipated sequel to one of the biggest dudebro series out there.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 28, 2022 18:25:00 GMT
All the more reason to do it really.
Anyway, I bailed out of online early on as it just fundamentally never worked. I have been back a few times since and is obviously improved, still a hot mess though. Red Dead 2 online left a similar impression. If they want to make it online focused that’s fine as long as it’s good. But the joy of a rockstar game for me is the world, enjoying the story and creating my own fun. They are good at that. I can’t help feeling that they aren’t actually that good at the online stuff, they’ve just hit some kind of magic formula.
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Post by Dave_McCoy on Jun 28, 2022 18:47:28 GMT
I sort of like GTA Online but they utterly messed up by having stuff like the Oppressor Mk2 (or Shitbike, for short). If the online was a bit more grounded and you could move your merchandise without it basically getting auto missiled it would be more rewarding. Being able to out drive a pursuer is much more fun. Dipping down alleys, taking tricky tight turns and gaps in traffic is great fun and if you get killed that way, fair play. Someone just auto targeting and pressing a button is crap.
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Post by Dave_McCoy on Jun 28, 2022 18:48:48 GMT
Add in people just shooting you because you exist and it's just a mess. "Oh, a car is driving past...Best get out my rocket launcher"
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 28, 2022 18:56:36 GMT
GTAO was certainly better before the weaponised vehicles were everywhere, someone having a single tank in year 1 would usually end up as a public event as strangers would team up to blow it up. Maybe like WoW they could have classic servers without that stuff? Anyhow I still fire it up on a regular basis just to potter about, I've got just shy of $50M without microtransactions and a pretty full portfolio but I do miss the simpler times like this silliness from the EG 360 days.
I'd assume GTA VI online will be crossplay, which would be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 19:03:23 GMT
Add in people just shooting you because you exist and it's just a mess. "Oh, a car is driving past...Best get out my rocket launcher" Honestly though, I think it works in this case. This is one series where people genuinely enjoy playing just for the sake of causing chaos, and doing that in a big open world populated by real players works. I don't like the invasions in Watch Dogs because they take place in the single player story mode, it's a pain try to go to a story marker and have someone sneak into your game and start hacking you or shooting you from a car or something. But GTA and RDR building a whole separate mode just for the sake of running around and fucking things up works for me.
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