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Post by BurnoutJunkie on Sept 9, 2021 21:27:46 GMT
I'm going to set some time aside for installing Duckstation on my Mac, I do still enjoy quite a lot of PS1 games. I wish there was something similar for the N64, the platform that really needs an emulator with an overclock option. Besides a few rare titles with 2D or simpler visuals everything on the N64 struggles to maintain a remotely playable frame rate. I would welcome some good N64 emulation options too. Have you used any on Mac, and if so, any you recommend? |
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Post by ChocNut on Sept 10, 2021 16:41:22 GMT
Great stream from Easy Allies last night (Mortal Kombat 1 friendly tournament in person) youtu.be/lbgrzlJKoWoWasn't sure which thread to post but had to share with sommebody because I thought it was so cool! |
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Post by Lizard on Sept 12, 2021 7:09:05 GMT
What's the consensus on best all-around pad for emulation? I'm looking at the PS DS4 and 8bitdo Pro 2, and I'm inclined to the latter as it's the same price and more versatile. As I'm planning on getting an OLED Switch my first instinct was the Pro Controller, but apparently the d-pad is shite.
Any thoughts from the FG hive mind welcome.
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Post by LFace on Sept 12, 2021 7:58:07 GMT
I use my old DS4 from the PS4. Upgraded to PS5 and sold the 4 on but kept a spare controller for Emulation.
I have Nvidia Shield as my primary streaming box (Plex, YouTube, Netflix etc) and a suite of emulators on there (retroarch, dolphin, PPSSPP, ReDream) and DS4 works fine if the Shield is isolated well - it has bloody awful shielding no pun intended that can hamper signal to the controller causing terrible lag.
I replaced my TV stand recently and it's much bigger so the shield is on top shelf nowhere near any other tech and there is no lag now.
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Post by malek86 on Sept 12, 2021 8:25:27 GMT
So I've decided to try and resurrect an old 2012 netbook with AMD C-70 and HD7290 graphics, to see how it runs games. Turns out it's in a weird spot: newer games (and I mean new by 2005 standards) run too slow, as expected, but emulators also seem to be more than it can handle. I guess the CPU is simply too weak to do anything. Surprisingly, Half-Life 2 runs at 18fps regardless of whether I set 640x480 minimum details or 1366x768 medium details, which seems to imply the GPU would be somewhat able to hold its own if it weren't hamstrung by the CPU.
Just about the closest I got it to run a modern game was FEAR, which at minimum settings and 683x384 managed to feel smooth enough. Basically, this thing can only run games made in the Win95/98 era, but those often have compatibility issues, and source ports generally require more grunt than their original counterparts.
Dosbox is mostly fine with 320x200 games, but no higher than that. Stuff like GZDoom is too choppy. eDuke32 works okay, but only in classic rendering mode. GLQuake is good, but Yamagi Quake 2 needs to be dropped to 800x600 to keep 60fps. So essentially, there isn't much it can do. Dosbox and a few other games, and little else.
I do wonder if I could somehow install Win98 on it. I imagine there are no drivers out there though.
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Post by RadicalRex on Sept 12, 2021 15:09:19 GMT
LizardI use both and I think they're pretty equally good. DS5 is a little bulkier and heavier and buttons are a little stiffer so I find it a little harder on my thumbs on longer sessions of button mashing games. On the other hand, the shape of its handles seems to be more comfortable in the long run, my "lower" 3 fingers get a little crampy on the DS4 after a while. But all of this is marginal. One thing that concerns me about the DS4 though is stick quality. My previous DS4 developed some pretty nasty in-game jitter on the sticks after less than a year, the replacement had the same problem right out of the box. Maybe I was just unlucky, but it destroyed my trust in later DS4s (my launch day one worked for many years without any such issue). The DS5's sticks are perfect so far. Using both with DS4Windows in wireless mode, works great with very rare latency issues.
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Post by Cappy on Sept 12, 2021 15:33:03 GMT
I'm going to set some time aside for installing Duckstation on my Mac, I do still enjoy quite a lot of PS1 games. I wish there was something similar for the N64, the platform that really needs an emulator with an overclock option. Besides a few rare titles with 2D or simpler visuals everything on the N64 struggles to maintain a remotely playable frame rate. I would welcome some good N64 emulation options too. Have you used any on Mac, and if so, any you recommend? I would recommend Openemu, it's a multi-platform emulator but it does well enough to enable trouble free play, I've not had any issues with N64 games in Openemu, an overclock option would be nice but it's good enough and runs lot's of emulation cores so you can also play PSP and PS1 games etc. |
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Post by BurnoutJunkie on Sept 13, 2021 16:03:33 GMT
I would welcome some good N64 emulation options too. Have you used any on Mac, and if so, any you recommend? I would recommend Openemu, it's a multi-platform emulator but it does well enough to enable trouble free play, I've not had any issues with N64 games in Openemu, an overclock option would be nice but it's good enough and runs lot's of emulation cores so you can also play PSP and PS1 games etc. Thanks. I heard of Openemu a while back, will give it a try. |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Sept 13, 2021 16:47:39 GMT
I caved and bought the new Super Mario Bros Game & Watch.
Two things:
One. It's amazing where technology is at. Full on super Mario Bros with sound and all in a console the size of the old game and watches. Sunny amazing
Yep. Good damn how I hate super Mario Bros. Can't stand it, worse than Sonic.
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Post by 😎 on Sept 13, 2021 16:56:54 GMT
So you bought a dedicated device for a game you can't stand?
Why?
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Post by gamingdave on Sept 13, 2021 16:59:17 GMT
I caved and bought the new Super Mario Bros Game & Watch. Two things: One. It's amazing where technology is at. Full on super Mario Bros with sound and all in a console the size of the old game and watches. Sunny amazing Yep. Good damn how I hate super Mario Bros. Can't stand it, worse than Sonic. A mate bought me it for my birthday. It's a lovely little unit but it really hasn't aged well as a game, that or maybe I have just always been rubbish at it and don't have the patience. |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Sept 13, 2021 19:33:59 GMT
So you bought a dedicated device for a game you can't stand? Why? For my collection of Game & Watch games. Plus I thought that maybe I was just to finish at it when it first came out, and maybe I'd like it now. Was only 34GBPs so no huge expense. |
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Post by BurnoutJunkie on Sept 13, 2021 20:19:33 GMT
I bought the Mario Bros Game & Watch last year, haven't even opened it yet. I have the Zelda one pre-ordered.
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Post by marcp on Sept 16, 2021 7:41:51 GMT
Well after all the fuckery of limited editions, limited limited editions, arcade editions, console editions, G. Darius - i.e. THE BEST ONE, is up for stand-alone pre-order. £21.75 on ShopTo for PS4/Switch.
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Post by Psiloc on Sept 16, 2021 11:12:21 GMT
So I've decided to try and resurrect an old 2012 netbook with AMD C-70 and HD7290 graphics, to see how it runs games. Turns out it's in a weird spot: newer games (and I mean new by 2005 standards) run too slow, as expected, but emulators also seem to be more than it can handle. I guess the CPU is simply too weak to do anything. Surprisingly, Half-Life 2 runs at 18fps regardless of whether I set 640x480 minimum details or 1366x768 medium details, which seems to imply the GPU would be somewhat able to hold its own if it weren't hamstrung by the CPU. Just about the closest I got it to run a modern game was FEAR, which at minimum settings and 683x384 managed to feel smooth enough. Basically, this thing can only run games made in the Win95/98 era, but those often have compatibility issues, and source ports generally require more grunt than their original counterparts. Dosbox is mostly fine with 320x200 games, but no higher than that. Stuff like GZDoom is too choppy. eDuke32 works okay, but only in classic rendering mode. GLQuake is good, but Yamagi Quake 2 needs to be dropped to 800x600 to keep 60fps. So essentially, there isn't much it can do. Dosbox and a few other games, and little else. I do wonder if I could somehow install Win98 on it. I imagine there are no drivers out there though. Try Windows XP? You'd need to keep it completely offline though unless you want 100 viruses within 5 minutes. I had a nettop (remember those) once with an Intel Atom and no discrete graphics and it was a pretty good emulation machine. Could run PS1 games at full speed. |
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Post by knifeyspoony on Sept 16, 2021 11:35:26 GMT
Well after all the fuckery of limited editions, limited limited editions, arcade editions, console editions, G. Darius - i.e. THE BEST ONE, is up for stand-alone pre-order. £21.75 on ShopTo for PS4/Switch. Ahhhh I had the demo of that on PS1 and fucking loved it, always thought the enemy designs were so cool. Sorely tempted to pick this up and actually see what's past the first level. |
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Sept 16, 2021 11:41:38 GMT
Well after all the fuckery of limited editions, limited limited editions, arcade editions, console editions, G. Darius - i.e. THE BEST ONE, is up for stand-alone pre-order. £21.75 on ShopTo for PS4/Switch. Ahhhh I had the demo of that on PS1 and fucking loved it, always thought the enemy designs were so cool. Sorely tempted to pick this up and actually see what's past the first level. It should also be getting the V2 updated version as a free patch (it doesn't mention it in the blurb so I assume it is later like with my compilation version) |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Sept 16, 2021 12:13:05 GMT
I bought the Mario Bros Game & Watch last year, haven't even opened it yet. I have the Zelda one pre-ordered. At least the Zelda one comes with a good game. Maybe two, I've never played Zelda II |
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Post by Psiloc on Sept 17, 2021 12:46:51 GMT
Can anyone recommend a decent vertical shmup that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? The whole genre seems expensive.
Been collecting for Dreamcast lately but I'd consider any system
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Post by docrob on Sept 17, 2021 16:40:38 GMT
The death of Sir Clive Sinclair has inspired me to play some of my old Spectrum games again.
Can anyone recommend me a good emulator for Windows? I have a CD I bought in 1998 that has pretty much every game ever made on it, mostly in .sna format. I'd also like one that will let me use a joypad?
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Post by 😎 on Sept 17, 2021 18:17:48 GMT
FUSE is a decent freeware one.
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Post by 😎 on Sept 17, 2021 18:18:15 GMT
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Post by UltraPyper777 on Sept 17, 2021 18:30:43 GMT
ZXspin is another good one, I used it often to code/playtest my games.
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Post by docrob on Sept 18, 2021 9:23:54 GMT
Thanks. I actually downloaded Fuse yesterday and it seems to work well - aside from the fact that the folder it installed to vanished completely and hasn’t reappeared even when hidden files are visible! - but I couldn’t figure out how to configure the joystick options at all. The menu makes no sense at all.
The Spectrum was great, and Ultimate (who became Rare, of course) made the best games for it. But one childhood memory I had suppressed was that, for some bizarre reason, they insisted on mapping their keyboard controls to QWERT, rather than any remotely sensible layout. Spent a fun 5 minutes rediscovering 10-year-old me’s difficulties in trying to play Atic Atac.
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Post by Lizard on Sept 19, 2021 2:10:47 GMT
I got my 8bido Pro 2 and it seems like a quality piece of hardware... except it won't work wirelessly. It doesn't seem to charge and just will not switch on. Hopefully there's an easy fix but I just know I'll have to return it. Urgh.
Still had a blast with Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder.
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Post by erekose on Sept 19, 2021 10:30:49 GMT
I’m interested in getting into retro gaming. I feel increasing fatigue with modern gaming, much of which just feels so bloated and demanding. I frequently ask myself why I spent so much money on a PS5 and Oled TV when I’m just increasingly drawn to 16-bit-style indies and retro games. Habit? Addiction?
Anyway as a jumping off point I bought a Super NT and Donkey Kong Country and am looking forward to jumping in… no long-ass intro, no tutorial, no long-winded exposition… just game. I would have liked to have gotten a CRT and original console but I just don’t have the space unfortunately.
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Post by Zyrr on Sept 19, 2021 11:30:37 GMT
I do tend to play on original hardware (although I keep looking at FPGA solutions, like the Super NT and the MiSTER), but I am slowly but surely moving away from collecting more physical games and just getting Everdrive carts and other such storage devices for my old machines. There's something to be said for having all the games you want on one cartridge/device - saves a load of shelf space for a start.
Current game prices don't help: they've shot up massively for certain systems over the past few years.
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Post by pierrepressure on Sept 19, 2021 12:11:26 GMT
Aside from Cappy, anyone holding out for the rumoured Dreamcast Mini? Few years away I bet but would love to have another crack at playing some of the games (never could be arsed with emulation).
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Post by Zyrr on Sept 19, 2021 12:36:27 GMT
I'd certainly be interested. I still use my original Dreamcast, but the GD-Rom drives Sega opted for are notorious for failing over time (I've been really lucky so far!) and are impossible to replace. That would leave me with no other option but to mod it with a Gdemu SD card device to keep it running - which I don't mind doing, but I do like to keep my hardware as near to original spec as possible (which is why I prefer external storage solutions like Everdrives, etc.)
With a DC mini I could go a bit easier on the old hardware. My main concern though would be what the controllers looked like. Can't see them keeping the original size of the controller, or any VMU options (it could have a cheap LCD screen though, I suppose). If anything, I imagine it will be the potential expense of the controller which will prevent Sega from producing a Dreamcast mini.
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Post by KD on Sept 19, 2021 12:39:01 GMT
After the Saturn mini sure, I mean it must happen first? Right?
Just me then....
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