Avatar Wet Cats Massacre

If Avatar seems like it sucks because it is derivative of Aliens, might poisoning your kids with Avatar first risk making Aliens seem bad later?

Avatar or Aliens?

They said the Avatar Wet Cats trailer was really boring, and they're too young for Aliens.

Those are all on the list to show the kids.

IME kids just laugh at 80s stuff or earlier now, and criticise 'the graphics'.

This is rather scathing.

www.theguardian.com/film/2022/dec/13/avatar-the-way-of-water-review-james-cameron?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Tbf it is Peter Bradshaw, regardless of this particular review I don't find him to be a particularily good critic, most of the time as with other film reviews in the Guardian it just feels like they're trying to reach the word count.

This is completely anecdotal, but to me it doesn't feel like there's much hype or anything about this. The first one was this huge event, but so far nobody I know has even mentioned wanting to go see it.

Anyway, I wish it all the best. I don't know that it's going to get $2bn worth of success, but it's still probably going to be the biggest movie of the year.

Yeah, this. No matter what it does, it’ll always be in the shadow of the most money movie of all time, and I can’t see it doing anywhere near that or even the top ten.

But who knows. It’s hard to bet against James Cameron, I remember when Titanic was a disastrous flop in the making until it was the biggest movie of all time, just before his next movie was the biggest movie of all time.

Wasn't the first one like the 'beginning' of real cinema 3D hype, the real next gen bs.


Turns out 3D is a bit shit and nobody is that interested, but he's still trying to push it. 

3D, when done well, is excellent. It's not really Cameron's fault that he made a decent experience and then Hollywood decided to push it onto everything with generally mediocre results.
I'm excited to see this in #D, the 5 min clip at the end of the Avatar's recent theatrical run looked amazing.

I read/watched 4 reviews yesterday and all of them were positive about it.

Yeah, the Empire review is 5 stars, I mean it's Empire and they really overrate the geek stuff. I mean does anyone remember their Attack of the Clones review?

I was kind of hoping it was going to be great just to shut up the "feRn GullY diD it fUrSt!!" people.

Empire are very big on cinematic spectacle so they tend to highly rate stuff that looks really cool if you see it on a huge IMAX screen. I feel like the Avatar 2 review reads just like the original Avatar review, in that it's a well-constructed action movie with a hippy message but if you're into visual splendour it's a feast for the eyes and ears. And to be fair I remember thinking the same thing in 2009 or whever: that it was a four-star film that turned into a five-star experience in IMAX 3D.

So the span of reviews for the new one are panning out more-or-less as I thought; that it's exactly the same, quality-wise, as the first film, and the "graphics" (my kids use that expression too) will wow you just as much as the first film did.

"If you liked Avatar here's more Avatar". I still have this funny feeling it's gonna do billions but time will tell.

I think Cameron has said $2bn, but that's not the budget of this one film, it's because they've made two back-to-back and spent loads on R&D and new technology, and even (I believe) some development and early footage for the mooted Avatar 4 & 5.

So I reckon all of that - two films plus everything else - could be $1bn, and then with marketing and everything and needing it to be profitable, he's saying $2bn.

Either that or he just wants to try to make a ton of cash.