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Post by Dougs on May 18, 2023 7:01:10 GMT
And they'd have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids.
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Post by geefe on May 18, 2023 7:49:44 GMT
No he's not saying the cops weren't there, he's saying the cops were there but they didn't make their presence known until Mr Blonde started shooting
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Post by Youthist on May 18, 2023 12:20:06 GMT
I can't see Phoebe Waller-Bridge without thinking of the (fantastic) opening intro to Fleabag. Watching the new Stewart Lee tour will change what you think about when you hear or see her forever. |
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Post by Vandelay on May 18, 2023 12:23:11 GMT
For some reason, watching that scene made me think that they could have taken some clips from this and now I'm thinking PWB would make a good Care Archer. youtu.be/Ny2scpc_N5w |
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 6:43:48 GMT
Early reviews seem mixed, but nothing too negative.
The only one I read in full was the Guardian which seemed pretty positive and gave it 3/5
I imagine it's going to be a solid 7/10 not-a-classic-but-fun movie.
Sounds like it's a pretty fast paced movie with loads of action scenes.
Which is good, the only thing I've suddenly wondered is if the time travel is going to be all Endgame and effectively rely on having seen the last 3 movies to get it.. and/or spoiler those last 3 movies.
Because if so that's going to be really annoying to have *another* new release where my kids aren't up to date enough to watch it.
It feels like recently every bloody movie expects you to have seen a bunch of previous ones. Flash is going to be the same.
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Post by Dougs on May 19, 2023 6:50:58 GMT
What on earth are you doing if your kids haven't seen Indy by their age?! Call yourself a responsible parent...
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 19, 2023 6:56:12 GMT
The girl has seen all of the in dozens of 10-15 minute chunks. I watch them all the time but she thinks they are shit and that’s about as long as it takes for her to leave the room.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 7:01:07 GMT
I can't see Phoebe Waller-Bridge without thinking of the (fantastic) opening intro to Fleabag. Watching the new Stewart Lee tour will change what you think about when you hear or see her forever. The way I think of her is similar to rhaegyr, so that might be a nice change. Do you think it really is massive? |
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 7:01:47 GMT
I really would be surprised if Indiana Jones appeals to kids these days. One thing I will say is my experience of children is they are far, far less cinematically aware than we were and I blame the Netflix thing for that.
They don't really watch films on telly and if something isn't recommended on streaming or a Marvel, it's not in their sphere of knowledge.
The upshot is they haven't had the steady drip of stuff we had. You watched a Carry On because it was a Sunday and that's all ITV had. You watched a western because you were off school and that was your choice.
If you gave kids a list of the "classics" we grew up with, I would be very very surprised if they'd seen 25% of them.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 7:02:33 GMT
What on earth are you doing if your kids haven't seen Indy by their age?! Call yourself a responsible parent... They've seen the first one! They would have seen the other ones if we weren't busy trying to catch up on 1000 MCU movies before Quantumania Guardians 3 |
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 7:06:28 GMT
I really would be surprised if Indiana Jones appeals to kids these days. One thing I will say is my experience of children is they are far, far less cinematically aware than we were and I blame the Netflix thing for that. They don't really watch films on telly and if something isn't recommended on streaming or a Marvel, it's not in their sphere of knowledge. The upshot is they haven't had the steady drip of stuff we had. You watched a Carry On because it was a Sunday and that's all ITV had. You watched a western because you were off school and that was your choice. If you gave kids a list of the "classics" we grew up with, I would be very very surprised if they'd seen 25% of them. Yeah, they probably wouldn't watch *any* movies by themselves if I didn't push them to do so. They'd just watch youtube junk or binge tv shows. Maybe Disney/Pixar animations when they were younger. They certainly wouldn't choose to watch a movie just because it's on. When we get to Back the the Future 3 I imagine they'll be a bit confused as I'm not sure they're even aware what a 'Western' is. That said, they did enjoy Indy#1 more than I expected and seemed at least mildly interested in watching the new one in the cinema. |
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Post by elstoof on May 19, 2023 7:25:34 GMT
I’ve never seen one all the way through I don’t think. I can’t imagine either of my girls being interested, might try it. Did half of goonies a few weeks ago with my eldest and she was mainly keen because I said i watched it at her age, I’ve not seen it in 30 years and couldn’t make out a bloody word they were saying
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Post by kal on May 19, 2023 7:27:59 GMT
I really would be surprised if Indiana Jones appeals to kids these days. One thing I will say is my experience of children is they are far, far less cinematically aware than we were and I blame the Netflix thing for that. They don't really watch films on telly and if something isn't recommended on streaming or a Marvel, it's not in their sphere of knowledge. The upshot is they haven't had the steady drip of stuff we had. You watched a Carry On because it was a Sunday and that's all ITV had. You watched a western because you were off school and that was your choice. If you gave kids a list of the "classics" we grew up with, I would be very very surprised if they'd seen 25% of them. Fucking hell you do talk some bollocks. I do a lot of work with streaming services and have access to real data on this, and every word you’ve said is presumptuous received wisdom nonsense. |
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 7:39:14 GMT
Well share then, kal. I'm basing my experience on working with kids over the last 10 years or so as streaming has risen. School, colleges, etc.
If your data says different then please share. And no this isn't me being sarcastic of facetious. I talk to kids, ask them what they've seen and most films we like are "yeah my dad likes that" or they aren't aware.
Marvel is king, for these kids.
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Post by elstoof on May 19, 2023 7:47:18 GMT
Young man, tell me, have you enjoyed the moving pictures of the Ealing studios in your leisure time?
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 7:48:56 GMT
I started watching one of the old St Trinians movies on iPlayer a few days ago. Does that count?
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 7:49:25 GMT
You meant me, right?
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Post by elstoof on May 19, 2023 7:50:41 GMT
I’m imaging old man geefe’s interactions with the youth of today
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 8:00:37 GMT
I'm imagining myself as still being classed as 'young man'  |
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Post by kal on May 19, 2023 8:04:25 GMT
I can’t really share the data as it’s several hundred pages plus I’m legally bound from sharing it.
Yes they have different viewing habits but the idea that kids these days only watch short form content and are completely detached from all pop culture pre 2010 is reductive nonsense.
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Post by beastmaster on May 19, 2023 8:05:27 GMT
Reviews are coming out of Cannes. Seem mostly average. One or two I read singing it's praises and another which says by comparison it makes Crystal Skull doesn't seem that bad.
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 8:18:07 GMT
I can’t really share the data as it’s several hundred pages plus I’m legally bound from sharing it. Yes they have different viewing habits but the idea that kids these days only watch short form content and are completely detached from all pop culture pre 2010 is reductive nonsense. Give us the gist of what they're aware of? Obviously they're not "detached" from pop culture pre 2010 but what things would they actually have reverence for? EG - not once have I heard any of the kids I've taught mention stuff like Die Hard, Terminator or The Matrix. Home Alone, though. They fucking love that. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 8:19:35 GMT
Spiderverse, The Flash and Indy are going to make June a busy month.
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 8:21:02 GMT
I’m imaging old man geefe’s interactions with the youth of today Saw a lad the other day in a Slipknot shirt and thought, of all the fucking retro bands you pick that one. Honestly, nu metal making a return is a travesty. Still, at least Linkin Park can't physically make a comeback. |
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Post by Dougs on May 19, 2023 8:30:40 GMT
A lot comes down to the demographic of the parents imo. There aren't many 80s and 90s family classics that my kids haven't seen. And as they've got older, we've started showing them older content too (Terminator, T2 most recently). They may not have chosen to watch some of it, but there's not much they haven't enjoyed either. And yeah, they both love films of their era too.
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Post by kal on May 19, 2023 8:31:56 GMT
Forget it. I was wrong you’re spot on Geefe.
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Post by wunty on May 19, 2023 8:37:11 GMT
A lot comes down to the demographic of the parents imo. There aren't many 80s and 90s family classics that my kids haven't seen. And as they've got older, we've started showing them older content too (Terminator, T2 most recently). They may not have chosen to watch some of it, but there's not much they haven't enjoyed either. And yeah, they both love films of their era too. That's what i was thinking. I'm sitting here casting my mind back over older the films I've watched with the boy. How many he was aware of and wanted to watch himself compared with how many we've watched because it's been something I've loved when I was younger. There's definitely a large portion of films that I'm sure we've only watched because I've brought them up. However, he's very much in the camp of "if it's a good film, it's good, regardless of age". He'll point out the dodgy effects in the older films more often (although some of the newer films look just as shit), but will still have a great time.
I suppose the best example is Star Wars. On top of everything he's seen, including the TV shows, he still loves Empire above all else, and that's as old as I am.
Yes, he watches a load of short form media on his phone, but there's no real substitute for a film for him, one that we can all sit down and watch together. We only recently watched Temple of Doom and he loved it (saw Raiders a while ago, he loved that as well), and he's been on at me to watch the other two (despite me insisting there's only another one).
I think he'll want to see the new one too.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2023 8:38:35 GMT
Reviews are coming out of Cannes. Seem mostly average. One or two I read singing it's praises and another which says by comparison it makes Crystal Skull doesn't seem that bad. No idea why I'm so disappointed by these entirely expected middling scores, but I am. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 19, 2023 8:38:58 GMT
My guess would be that kids are just better served for content, they dont have to watch what their parents are watching anymore. They have a vast library of movies available when they want them.
If I look at the IMDB Top 250, ive seen most of them and a good chunk of them are from having literally no choice. No eight year old is going to choose to watch Bridge on The River Kwai these days (I would worry if they did).
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 8:40:25 GMT
If the boy wants to watch Crystal Skull, then let him. He must be allowed to suffer. It'll add character.
Kal, don't throw your toys out the pram. It's beardy men discussing films kids don't watch. If you've got metrics and data that disprove something or show what kids like, share away. Christ, it's Friday morning.
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