Aunty Treats
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Post by Aunty Treats on Oct 20, 2024 12:57:35 GMT
To be honest, it's quite surprising that there are not more ads in games. Agree, but imagine the nerd rage that would be unleashed on the first movers to try this. Gamers are awful people to have as customers Poor publishers
What exactly would be the benefit of ads in games? Do you think they'll lower the prices? They get more money and we get the exact same games with shitty ads everywhere
You say you're not pro publisher but you clearly do care more about their finances than you do the quality of games
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Post by theguy on Oct 20, 2024 13:03:44 GMT
I'd take nerd rage over ads tbh
Gamers are great customers anyway, they're continually happy to engage with shitty practices
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Post by Aunty Treats on Oct 20, 2024 13:06:47 GMT
Yeah, as much as they complain, they have no self control
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Post by lukasz on Oct 20, 2024 14:09:27 GMT
Some games do have ads
Alan Wake initially Need for speed most wanted 2005 had burger king.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 20, 2024 14:20:58 GMT
Does anyone remember one of the first game subscription services... I forget the name, maybe Gametap?
Pretty sure it had a free tier where you had to watch an ad before gaming, or something like that. I remember quite liking it, but then it got bought out by some other company and they screwed it up.
Ads in games.. depending on the game I don't mind. Sports/Racing/Real world city games they'd probably work fine, and if it isn't obnoxious then who cares if it generates a bit more money for the developer/publisher.
Sticking ads for Doritos in a Zelda game would be another matter.
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Post by technoish on Oct 20, 2024 14:24:44 GMT
Does anyone remember one of the first game subscription services... I forget the name, maybe Gametap? Pretty sure it had a free tier where you had to watch an ad before gaming, or something like that. I remember quite liking it, but then it got bought out by some other company and they screwed it up. Ads in games.. depending on the game I don't mind. Sports/Racing/Real world city games they'd probably work fine, and if it isn't obnoxious then who cares if it generates a bit more money for the developer/publisher. Sticking ads for Doritos in a Zelda game would be another matter. Onlive?
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 20, 2024 14:29:05 GMT
Hmm... googles... nope, it was Gametap (go memory!) I think I played a bunch of Tomb Raider games for free on it, plus they got American McGee to make a game for it... which was meh.
Ahead of its time in a lot of ways... though I assume they couldn't get anywhere near enough money from making you watch a 20 second ad to cover the game cost. Hence it disappearing.
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Post by zephro on Oct 20, 2024 15:39:04 GMT
A cup of peppermint tea at Pret costs £3.10 now. Yes London.
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Post by andytheaverage on Oct 20, 2024 15:54:01 GMT
There's nothing wrong with subscription models as long as they aren't the only option to play a game. As someone else mentioned, it's basically the modern equivalent of renting from Blockbusters, with all the benefits and downsides that entails.
Same with free to play Vs paying upfront. Both can work well, it only starts to feel scummy when a paid game includes endless micro transactions (which most big publishers now do).
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Post by Rich on Oct 20, 2024 16:26:05 GMT
The inevitable problem will come when each publisher insists on it's own subscription service.
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Post by andytheaverage on Oct 20, 2024 16:35:26 GMT
The inevitable problem will come when each publisher insists on it's own subscription service. That's only a problem if it becomes the only way to play the publisher's games. I can't imagine any publishers are rushing to go subscription only after seeing the "success" of Ubisoft's attempt, for example. I think subscriptions are generally good for gamers as they offer choice and can be good value in certain circumstances, but I'm less convinced they're good for developers, especially the small and mid sized ones. I'd be interested to see the stats, but I've probably bought more games on Steam in the last 12 months for the Steam Deck then I have in the last 4 years on Xbox due to GamePass, even though Xbox is my main platform at the moment.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 21, 2024 8:33:20 GMT
There was at least one attempt (years ago) with some racing game adding billboards for real companies/products, and I vaguely recall there being some others. I have a vague recollection that Carmageddon had billboard ads
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 21, 2024 8:36:12 GMT
Just wait until every single game costs £10 a month instead of £70 once. Then £20, then £30... Edit: not a response to anyone's post, just to the thread in general. That might actually be better depending on how it's implemented and what the games contain, if you can finish a game in a month or two you're suddenly paying only £20 per game Suddenly there is a massive spike in difficulty or the amount of bullshit busywork required to progress to completion to lengthen the game.
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Post by simple on Oct 21, 2024 10:31:59 GMT
The inevitable problem will come when each publisher insists on it's own subscription service. That's only a problem if it becomes the only way to play the publisher's games. I can't imagine any publishers are rushing to go subscription only after seeing the "success" of Ubisoft's attempt, for example. As soon as one of them gets it to work the rest will want to carve up gaming the same way we’ve seen streaming tv become such a nightmare appscape
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Post by nazo on Oct 21, 2024 11:00:11 GMT
I don't really see that working for gaming, although given how much money everyone that isn't Netflix is losing, it isn't really working for streaming TV either.
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Post by KD on Oct 21, 2024 11:17:36 GMT
One of the Rainbow Six Vegas games had adverts on the bus shelters, seemed harmless at the time.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 21, 2024 11:23:08 GMT
I don't really see that working for gaming, although given how much money everyone that isn't Netflix is losing, it isn't really working for streaming TV either. Yeah Ubisoft and EA offer it but they've never exploded in popularity and it's primarily used as an addition not as an exclusive place to play their titles. With how long game development takes compared to tv and games they also know they don't have enough content where people would stay in any great numbers.
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Post by simple on Oct 21, 2024 11:23:48 GMT
And lets not forget Cool Spot, Mick & Mack or
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 21, 2024 11:24:38 GMT
It wasn't even a good game but it was bloody EVERYWHERE.
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Post by RadicalRex on Oct 21, 2024 11:33:18 GMT
"Not even good" is quite an understatement
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Post by zisssou on Oct 21, 2024 11:38:01 GMT
That is fighting talk.
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Post by Aunty Treats on Oct 21, 2024 11:38:48 GMT
It wasn't even a good game but it was bloody EVERYWHERE. We even had it on the school computers
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 21, 2024 11:40:46 GMT
I know we love nostalgia at this place, even me, but cmon guys. Sure it was vibrant but as it was clearly aping Sonic it never came close.
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Post by zisssou on Oct 21, 2024 11:46:06 GMT
I certainly had fun with Zool on the Amiga. RIP Gremlin.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 21, 2024 11:48:58 GMT
Just to add, this is a personal opinion and if you enjoyed it then great. I just don't feel that it holds up today.
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Post by Aunty Treats on Oct 21, 2024 11:50:24 GMT
They should bring him back for a gritty reboot in Vapeland
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 21, 2024 11:53:59 GMT
I'd play that...
"JOOL"
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Post by zisssou on Oct 21, 2024 11:54:41 GMT
Just to add, this is a personal opinion and if you enjoyed it then great. I just don't feel that it holds up today. Listen I get it. You don't like it because it is culturally insensitive. He wasn't actually a Ninja. He was a white man from Croydon, dressed as a ninja.
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Post by theguy on Oct 21, 2024 11:55:38 GMT
I quite liked Zool, but then, I also liked Bubsy
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Post by zisssou on Oct 21, 2024 11:55:45 GMT
And I'll add James Pond is the one game that was shit. However I will say that Aquatic Games was the shit.
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