Bongo Heracles
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Sept 8, 2021 10:14:11 GMT
Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 8, 2021 10:14:11 GMT
I think you need to invest a certain amount of blood in a weapon before it pops. The easiest to get is the spear, just keep talking to achilles.
The hardest is the fists, I think. You have to talk to the minotaur with them equipped AND get the right dialogue to pop AND get the mini-boss room itself to pop.
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Sept 8, 2021 10:15:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 10:15:16 GMT
I'm Captain Fisto so it would make sense that it's the most difficult to unlock.
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Sept 8, 2021 10:21:31 GMT
Post by richyroo on Sept 8, 2021 10:21:31 GMT
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Sept 8, 2021 18:38:53 GMT
Post by ryder35 on Sept 8, 2021 18:38:53 GMT
You do get ‘enough’ and you eventually start to get redundant(ish) resources you can swap for it. It’s one of the few things that the game missteps with because it doesn’t explain weapon aspects very well. Basically, the weapon on the stand is the weapon type and then you choose it’s aspect. Aspects are all separate versions of that weapon (it’s appearance even changes when you change aspect) so there are 4x bows, 4x shields and so on. So there are actually Some aspects just give more damage, some aspects completely change the way a weapon plays but the Titan blood upgrades that individual aspect, not the weapon overall. tldr, there aren’t 6 weapons in the game, there are 24. So do you need to spend blood to unlock each aspect? |
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Bongo Heracles
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Sept 8, 2021 19:09:51 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 8, 2021 19:09:51 GMT
Yeah, it costs blood to unlock and more blood to power up the effect.
So it costs one or two bloods to unlock Chiron bow and you get a few extra homing arrows every time you level it up.
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Sept 13, 2021 18:45:13 GMT
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Post by deez on Sept 13, 2021 18:45:13 GMT
So I got a couple of extra escapes today, so up to my 3rd, with the fists, spear then bow, each with a bit more heat each time.
Is that what people do generally first, I.e. try and get a clear with each weapon?. Bumping up the difficulty but sticking to the same weapon just seems a bit unadventurous...
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Sept 13, 2021 19:01:23 GMT
Post by hedben on Sept 13, 2021 19:01:23 GMT
I still pick whatever weapon has bonus dark and gems - although it seems a bit pointless now that I don't really need darkness, and gems are just traded up for nectar and diamonds. But it helps to have the choice forced on me, otherwise I'd gravitate to the sword or the fists, by far the most effective/successful at escaping for me.
Regarding heat- again, the choice is basically made for you if you're rotating weapons, because you always pick the heat that gives a bonus opportunity for that weapon. So I'm up to about 3 with the fists and sword, and one or two with the rest.
What pact conditions are people choosing? I figure the easiest ones are Extreme Measures and Middle Management (because they only change one encounter per level) and then either Damage Control (for fast firing weapons) or Heightened Security.
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Sept 13, 2021 19:12:49 GMT
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Post by deez on Sept 13, 2021 19:12:49 GMT
Err the one where enemies take an extra hit before damage begins is my standard. Also tried the one where you have fewer boon choices and the one which cancels out the bottom of the mirror but seems like these really downgraded the boons I was getting (or at least, the only duo /legendary boons in that run were in the cancelled boon slot!)
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Sept 13, 2021 20:37:37 GMT
Post by Mark1412 on Sept 13, 2021 20:37:37 GMT
Extreme Measures, Middle Management and Tight Deadline (the 7 minute one) are my preferred ones. Got my time down to 20:30 this evening but it must be so tight to get through with the 5 minute limit.
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Sept 13, 2021 21:45:38 GMT
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Post by hedben on Sept 13, 2021 21:45:38 GMT
I just saw credits for the first time. Amazing game, definitely not done with it.
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Sept 13, 2021 22:41:41 GMT
Post by gamecat on Sept 13, 2021 22:41:41 GMT
Jury Summons (20% more mobs in normal encounters), is barely noticable at lvl 1.
I've parked this for a bit, or I can see it taking over all my <1hr gaming sessions. Final run before the end credits was a bit of a suprise.
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Sept 14, 2021 8:58:03 GMT
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Post by deez on Sept 14, 2021 8:58:03 GMT
Jury Summons (20% more mobs in normal encounters), is barely noticable at lvl 1. Thanks, tried that and cleared first go, with the Shield this time, on a pretty crap build to be honest. Rail and sword to go. |
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Sept 14, 2021 9:25:31 GMT
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Post by pierrepressure on Sept 14, 2021 9:25:31 GMT
Is there another ending after the 10 run ending? Feels like lots of story playing out/relationship building left.
Still absolutely loving this.
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Sept 14, 2021 9:34:35 GMT
Post by hedben on Sept 14, 2021 9:34:35 GMT
Yeah I still have a lot of loose ends to tie up, not least reuniting Orpheus and Eurydice , absolutely no way I'm quitting until that's done. I heard that apparently some of the side quests can take a while to trigger if you do them after seeing credits, because most of the conversations are about the end. EDIT- not sure why I spoiler'd that since it's listed as a prophecy, but leaving it just in case someone in the very early game sees it. |
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Sept 14, 2021 9:48:26 GMT
Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 14, 2021 9:48:26 GMT
I think you only get one set of credits. But then I dont think I cleared all the quests and dialogues with well over 100 clears, so I dont know what happens, if anything, when you complete *everything*.
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Sept 14, 2021 11:44:44 GMT
Post by Lurker on Sept 14, 2021 11:44:44 GMT
I've done 25 runs and am hitting a brick wall against Hades.
Am I being impatient and need to unlock more stuff or should I have kicked his arse by now?
Are there any cheap tactics / general tips I can use to beat him? (or "best" weapon to try / booms to look for etc?).
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Sept 14, 2021 11:47:18 GMT
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Post by deez on Sept 14, 2021 11:47:18 GMT
I've done 25 runs and am hitting a brick wall against Hades. Am I being impatient and need to unlock more stuff or should I have kicked his arse by now? Are there any cheap tactics / general tips I can use to beat him? (or "best" weapon to try / booms to look for etc?). Took me 53 attempts to beat him .. if you regularly getting there after 25, that's decent. Just keep unlocking the mirror. And kill his skulls to prevent the green wave things. |
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Sept 14, 2021 11:56:25 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 14, 2021 11:56:25 GMT
Chase the Lightning Rod dual boon. Take more or less any Zeus boon and any Artemis boon and it should pop at some point. In fact, you should have probably got it by accident by now because it’s really easy to get.
Combine it with hiding behind the shield and it’s about as easy mode as you can get.
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Sept 14, 2021 12:04:56 GMT
Post by Lurker on Sept 14, 2021 12:04:56 GMT
Thanks guys, I can't wait to try again later now.
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Sept 14, 2021 14:05:17 GMT
Post by richyroo on Sept 14, 2021 14:05:17 GMT
I only got to about 25 runs until I started beating Hades. By 50 runs I was frequently beating him.
Currently playing on the PS5, and I did have an advantage that I had already put in 20 hours on the Switch beforehand. So I had a little prior knowledge.
For me, the wall of mirrors really made the difference. By the time I had unlocked the additonal lives, along with the damage bonus', this is what made all the difference for me.
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Post by Lurker on Sept 15, 2021 12:01:05 GMT
I did it!
The Shield worked a treat. I usually play very aggressive (only used the shield once before), but switched my style to being a little more defensive and pretty much breezed through it.
Luckily I got the Zeus lighting which worked well, along with some of Athena's deflects.
I also picked up some laser thing for the cast which I'd never seen before. I kept dropping it out like a sentry gun and let it do it's thing whilst I hid behind the shield and rocks.
I can see me playing this on and off for quite a while, it's a great game.
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Sept 16, 2021 15:39:53 GMT
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Post by deez on Sept 16, 2021 15:39:53 GMT
After a bunch of failed attempts at the redacted stage with rail and sword, I finally escaped with the rail. Just the sword to go, and boy am I crap with it!
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Sept 16, 2021 20:55:27 GMT
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Post by f00b_inc on Sept 16, 2021 20:55:27 GMT
Right here's my update : still loving it. Beaten at least once with all weapons now and 1-2 heat with others, seen the initial credits sequence and agree with some of the comments above that it still feels like there is tons to do (I'm definitely not bored yet!)
Looking forward to trying to unlock remaining aspects and completing some of the quests & prophecies.
Definitely one of my favourite games in some time. I imagine this would have been an ideal Switch game although presumably it wouldn't run as smoothly on compared to the PS5?
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Sept 16, 2021 20:58:14 GMT
Post by gamecat on Sept 16, 2021 20:58:14 GMT
After a bunch of failed attempts at the redacted stage with rail and sword, I finally escaped with the rail. Just the sword to go, and boy am I crap with it! I did my firsst sword escape, not using it all.. just cast and dash lighting damage, was pretty crazy dashing everthing to death. |
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Sept 18, 2021 9:52:57 GMT
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Post by deez on Sept 18, 2021 9:52:57 GMT
Got to the credits. That final run is a bit different. It was a surprise also as I didn't know I had completed that many escapes...
I've now escaped the most of the weapons twice. I still hate the sword.
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Sept 18, 2021 9:57:33 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 18, 2021 9:57:33 GMT
Definitely one of my favourite games in some time. I imagine this would have been an ideal Switch game although presumably it wouldn't run as smoothly on compared to the PS5? It struggled a bit at high heat with lots of bullet hell enemies but overall it ran really well. Was a perfect handheld game which I think is at least one of the reasons I played it so much. |
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Sept 18, 2021 10:00:04 GMT
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Post by deez on Sept 18, 2021 10:00:04 GMT
It's an odd one as I thought that switch would be ideal also but I bounced off it immediately after a couple of goes. Only on gamepass did it sustain my interest..
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Sept 18, 2021 11:50:25 GMT
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Post by ryanclayton on Sept 18, 2021 11:50:25 GMT
Finally escaped on attempt 30. Used the fists and surprised myself as I haven’t done well with them previously
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Sept 18, 2021 13:30:16 GMT
Post by Techno Hippy on Sept 18, 2021 13:30:16 GMT
I've found the fists can wrok nicely when button mashing - still not done Hades though.
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Sept 20, 2021 17:11:15 GMT
Post by Ulythium on Sept 20, 2021 17:11:15 GMT
I'm on seven clears out of fifty-odd attempts - five with the shield (!), and one apiece with the fists and the rail - and I'm hoping to hit 10, then see the closing credits, using the three other weapons.
At that point, I'll probably call it quits for the time being, as the epilogue sounds like a bit of a grind; however, it's been one hell of an experience so far, and I've certainly got my money's worth (and then some).
Can anyone recommend another roguelike to try next? Having gone from Returnal to Hades, never having dipped a toe into the genre before this summer, I kinda don't want to play anything else right now!
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