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When The Cure and Paul Heaton can be both infinitely more talented and tell Ticketmaster to fuck the hell off it's pretty obvious where 50% of the greedy, nasty, money grabbing cuntface issue lies

Working class lads my cunting, unwashed, hungover arsehole

That guy is 100% correct and succinctly explains the off feeling I've had about them for the last 25+ years without being able to verbalise it.

That is really, really powerful

I'm in my early 40's and I never understood the appeal at all when I was younger, eye for a catchy tune for sure.. But lyrically absolutely void of literally anything really, I never understood the hype.

The most recent popbitch also seemingly confirmed my own assumption the years of "conflict" with the brothers has been carefully stage managed to the point of avoiding playing gigs when they couldn't be arsed on the day.

The reunion tour and £350 tickets arriving around just in time for Noels expensive divorce is great timing too.

Big fan of grass roots music and those ticket prices would pay for at least a gig a month for an entire year.

Selling themselves as working class with £350 tickets sums them up.

I just hear pseud cunts ragging on meathead cunts.

I like some of their music. It's not original or as good as they think it is. As above, first 2 albums are decent. But as people they're cunts and no way I'd be chucking that much cash at them.

Neil Kulkarni is ex-melody maker. Sadly died earlier this year - good mate/ex-colleague of a friend of mine.

Their music is perfectly serviceable, but it's in no way deserving of the hype that surrounded them then or now.

I don't even like their early shit as the mastering is so abysmal, brickwalled to fuck mixing.

Second paragraph articulates my earlier post, Vandelay's Blur to my Oasis.

Oasis have a few worthwhile moments amongst the plodding crap. The Gallaghers were horrible people in the band's heyday, and even more so now. I confess I find the psychodrama fascinating, though, the Supersonic documentary is great.

Weren’t the Wembley shows Blur’s third or fourth reunion?

I saw them doing a warm up show for Glastonbury 2009 at Newcastle Academy and they’ve reformed at least twice since then. There’s not really the same novelty or hype for a big comeback gig when a band are doing shows every 3-5 years anyway.

Despite the chart battle Oasis were ultimately the bigger band anyway so makes sense their reunion would lead to the panic buying that you need to sell these kind of shows out.

As someone who has been going to festivals and gigs since the early 90s, it's wryly amusing to me to see all these people only now finding out the same shit that I've been seeing incrementally happening for *decades* in this sector.

Dynamic pricing is the music industry being the music industry, taken to its logical conclusion.

It's always been about creating a sense of artificial scarcity and have demand created for them by focusing the hype on a very narrow range of acts that are deemed to be worthy of it. Or more pragmatically, a range of acts who the record companies think stand they best chance of generating a return on investment on the contracts they signed with them.

For every Oasis, there are tens of other acts that also signed record contracts and just as talented that just didn't get everybody on-board to agree that they were the Zeitgeist and have the necessary budgets allocated to wining and dining the right music journos and radio DJs (or influencers and Tit-tok'ers or whatever the kids are in to these days). They're probably now doing a job somewhere in some cubicle with a notional debt owed to the record company that they will never pay. And for everyone of those acts, there were 100s of acts that never got as far as that.

The music biz *need* these price gouging bullshit events because that's where the money is made. Even these "reunion" tours are now priced in, with the expectations that the teens that got in to acts back in the day will eventually need to be away from the kids and work and want to relive the good days, and be *they* target audience because they now have the disposable income the really make good on the cost of what used to be called "A&R" but is now just marketing.

Are Oasis any good? Yes. No. It doesn't really matter. There's enough middle aged, middle class people in new builds and an audi on the drive that experiencing Talking Head's "Once in a Lifetime" in real time and want to relive the good times again. And they're happy to put on their credit card.

Didn’t dynamic pricing take Springsteen tickets beyond £400 not long before Robert Smith told Ticketmaster where to shove it?

I would still think its bullshit but at least if it was a case of there being a batch of £150 tickets released one day then “high demand” tickets released at a higher price another day at least customers would know what they were being asked to pay. The current system locks you into a queue at one price then relies on you being enough of a whale that they can more than double the price at checkout and you still pay. So the customer is effectively blind as to what they’re being asked to pay. And that’s before you get into no gig justifying that upper price tag.

That actual government ministers have been scammed this time makes me think Ticketmaster have overplayed their hand this time

www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/sep/01/surge-ticket-pricing-to-be-reviewed-as-ministers-decry-vastly-inflated-oasis-prices

It's the hypocrisy I don't like. I don't buy into the "market demand is the bottom line" capitalist mentality, especially when so many bands, such as Oasis, have marketed themselves as "working class heroes".

Music should be for everyone, not just for for those who can afford it... or at least that's what I've always been lead to believe. Maybe live music is the reserve of the middle class now.