Frog
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Sept 23, 2023 9:34:13 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 23, 2023 9:34:13 GMT
This morning I watched someone completely murder him by throwing 15 grenades at him.
Put my effort to shame
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 23, 2023 10:08:31 GMT
Bloody hell - electric ones I guess?
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Sept 23, 2023 10:24:42 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 23, 2023 10:24:42 GMT
No it was a combination as I think you can only hold 5 of each. He started with 5 of them then just lobbed the others. Absolutely nailed him.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 23, 2023 10:25:20 GMT
Well, that's noted for NG+ if there is one
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 23, 2023 11:18:45 GMT
God, this fucking game has Doom 3 syndrome. *every* time you enter a room, the designers put an enemy behind you. It’s so tiresome.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 23, 2023 12:38:13 GMT
Ugh, ersatz Sen's Fortress is really quite annoying. Planks and mobs lobbing shit, boulders, then some brute up at the top with no save point in sight. Get to fuck.
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Sept 23, 2023 12:40:40 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 23, 2023 12:40:40 GMT
There is a shortcut and you are very close to it if you are at the top.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 23, 2023 12:52:51 GMT
Dammit. Thanks for the tip. I think I might know what you mean as I noticed there was something going on to the right (oriented from the entry point). Will look into it next time I play, tomorrow if I have the chance.
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Post by addyb on Sept 23, 2023 13:19:53 GMT
Got to the factory boss. Died and turned it off until later. Absolutely loving this. Easily the best soulslike I've played in a long time.
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Sept 23, 2023 13:52:11 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 23, 2023 13:52:11 GMT
Yeah it's very good. I really want to finish it but I'm already finding the bosses quite tricky as I struggle with timing on delayed hits. Every boss holds their attack one second longer than I expect and it keeps fucking me over. I just can't reprogram my old brain to adjust haha.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 23, 2023 15:12:36 GMT
That animation delay is fundamental isn't it? Even with mobs. You've really got to be careful not to get caught out. I couldn't resist putting in another hour. I'm at the Archbishop now. One thing I've really enjoyed about the game is the fact there are no two-health-bar-stage bosses...oh. Oh dear. Goddammit.
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Sept 23, 2023 15:40:59 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 23, 2023 15:40:59 GMT
I almost killed him this morning but had to go to work. Got camera screwed on my best attempt over on the right hand wall. Pretty sure I will have him in about 5 more goes but he does some really annoying stuff.
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Post by Sharzam on Sept 23, 2023 15:55:35 GMT
Really enjoying this, could never get into Dark Souls series as often felt that some random trash could kill you on the way to the boss so didn't get the practise in I sorely needed. This has a better balance, the little enemies give you a chance to practise while not posing much of a threat meaning you can reasonably sure will get back to the boss and claim your souls/ergo.
Perfect game pass fodder as certainly would not have been buying day one.
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Sept 23, 2023 16:08:58 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 23, 2023 16:08:58 GMT
You never need to kill things on the way back to the boss, just sprint past them as they won't chase for long.
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Sept 23, 2023 19:42:02 GMT
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Post by mikeck on Sept 23, 2023 19:42:02 GMT
Flame lord fucko can do one. Keep getting close, he's doable but fuuuuuck
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Sept 23, 2023 19:56:57 GMT
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Post by addyb on Sept 23, 2023 19:56:57 GMT
I think this is where my playthrough ends. Can't beat Fuoco and I've had at least 15 attempts. Had enough.
Twas a great game whilst it lasted though.
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Post by Frog on Sept 23, 2023 20:59:32 GMT
Grenade the fuck out of him
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Post by Frog on Sept 24, 2023 7:36:40 GMT
I can't do the archbishop, tried loads now and I'm getting annoyed. He is way too hard for an early boss and if you try and use lock on in the second part the camera has an absolute fit. Seems I'm not the only one as some people are saying it took them 2 days to beat him and I'm not sure I have the energy for that!
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Sept 24, 2023 10:05:21 GMT
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Post by addyb on Sept 24, 2023 10:05:21 GMT
Yeah I've knocked the game on the head now. May revisit in the future, but I don't have the time to spend repeating a boss fight continously.
Thank the gods this was on gamepass.
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Post by Frog on Sept 24, 2023 10:20:10 GMT
To be honest the next big boss is way harder than that one as well. I think it may get a bit of a tune down the line.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 24, 2023 11:18:28 GMT
I can't do the archbishop, tried loads now and I'm getting annoyed. He is way too hard for an early boss and if you try and use lock on in the second part the camera has an absolute fit. Seems I'm not the only one as some people are saying it took them 2 days to beat him and I'm not sure I have the energy for that! The flamberge legion arm melts his health bar in the first stage, if you've still got the option of creating it. I've also heard it's well worth farming flame grenades as they can do serious damage. Fire is key, but I'm sure you know that. Of course there's a difference between knowledge and skill, I've only done him once, and he killed me quickly on stage 2; but this time I'm going to try to ignore arsehole-pop-up-man and manoeuvre back to the head - and also try not to use the flamberge until the second stage to speed it up. And summon, of course. He can be my aggro sidekick for much of stage 1. Going in now....
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 24, 2023 11:20:13 GMT
It's a shame folk are giving up - I totally get it though and this is precisely why there should be difficulty sliders.
Having players who are enjoying the game give up at genuinely rock-hard bosses does absolutely nothing to serve the vision of the developers. It's myopic to think so.
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Sept 24, 2023 11:25:08 GMT
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Post by addyb on Sept 24, 2023 11:25:08 GMT
Yeah it's a shame as I was loving it. Wish I could just get over this hump. Younger me would have stuck it out. Older me with less time needs to prioritise fun over frustration.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 24, 2023 11:29:46 GMT
I completely understand.
I've just gone in three times without a summon to the Archbishop and he's trashed me :-D I'm trying to use it to learn perfect parries as I think they are essential in this fight (didn't use them with Fuoco, though it may have made it easier, who knows).
He's absolutely murdering me. But I have a stubborn streak. We'll see. A saving grace of this boss fight is that the route from bonfire to fog wall is direct and very short.
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Sept 24, 2023 11:31:11 GMT
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Post by addyb on Sept 24, 2023 11:31:11 GMT
Yeah that was at least a saving grace for Fuoco as it was a quick sprint across the girders and then drop down and run down the ramp.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 24, 2023 11:40:14 GMT
Dammit. Got him down to a third of his health in stage 2 - but then the summon died (he is a legend in this fight - essential) and I was out of health, and the boss just went nuts crashing around the arena.
But it's confirmed - fire is key. Set him alight by whatever means and his health melts.
Edit: should also note I'm using the Salamander Dagger Blade +4 attached to the Booster Glaive handle.
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Sept 24, 2023 11:59:23 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 24, 2023 11:59:23 GMT
I'm strength specced though so that dagger will be like using a feather for me.
I do wish you could respec before chapter 7 though, that's a big error.
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Sept 24, 2023 12:12:32 GMT
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Post by addyb on Sept 24, 2023 12:12:32 GMT
Thats a point I've not even upgraded any weapons at the point I'm upto.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Sept 24, 2023 12:40:18 GMT
It should make a difference. And you'll able to purchase moonstones before the archbishop if you find the right item box - I don't recall where I found it but I handed it over at the hotel. So all weapons can be levelled to +3 at least at the stage I'm at...with some gentle grinding.
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Sept 24, 2023 12:42:25 GMT
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Post by addyb on Sept 24, 2023 12:42:25 GMT
Maybe, just maybe I might have another hour on Fuoco tonight.....I'll need some more summoning dooberries as well.
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