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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 13:19:12 GMT
Thought the stealth worked well enough, but I ended up just shooting everything anyway. The knives were odd but they worked so I wasn't fussed.
Like I say, it's far from a perfect game but Terminators dammit. With lasers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 13:20:31 GMT
I should have also added "but I also enjoyed Colonial Marines", to give you an idea of just how much I'll tolerate if it pushes the right buttons.
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Post by simple on Dec 6, 2021 13:20:43 GMT
I don’t mind jank if it isn’t game breaking and its a fun or interesting game. Resistance is on my “if its cheap check it out list” heard good things from people I’d trust so got my hopes up.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Dec 6, 2021 13:20:48 GMT
It’s a worse version of Homefront The Revolution. In fact I’d say that’s a better Terminator game if you imagine the North Korean soldiers are robots.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 13:46:49 GMT
Going to be interesting to see how they make something that walks 1km an hour interesting to play in the Robocop game. It better have Clarence Bodicker in too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 14:17:31 GMT
So long as everyone explodes in a shower of red jizz when they get shot I'll be happy.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Dec 6, 2021 14:46:51 GMT
Also, the list forgot The Sarah Connor Chronicles, which was actually pretty decent. And then it got cancelled. Down with CANCEL CULTURE! |
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Post by dominalien on Dec 6, 2021 15:22:00 GMT
I got Terminator Resistance last week for few penises and have been enjoying it. A lot of slow times punctuated by pretty satisfying gunplay. My kind of thing, really.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 15:26:30 GMT
Incidentally, how much is a penis worth these days?
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Post by dominalien on Dec 6, 2021 15:28:57 GMT
Bloody kids these days, can't even do their own currency conversions.
In this case a couple of quid.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Dec 6, 2021 15:29:54 GMT
I got Terminator Resistance last week for few penises and have been enjoying it. A lot of slow times punctuated by pretty satisfying gunplay. My kind of thing, really. You heard it here first, penises are user Dominalien's kind of thing. No judgement, just support. |
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Post by dominalien on Dec 6, 2021 15:32:10 GMT
In case it hasn't been blatantly obvious, I got rid of some of those in exchange for TR.
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Post by lexw on Dec 6, 2021 16:55:57 GMT
I'd rate them T1 > T2 >> Sarah Connors Chronicles > Dark Fate > T3 >>> T4 >>>>>> Genisys(T5?) As people have said, T1 & T2 are both really good. I slightly prefer T1 as it's just tighter and more focused and more shocking. T2 is a great action movie though. Sarah Connor Chronicles has a few flaws, and takes a while to get going, but it also has some really great bits, and seemed to be going in a really interesting direction with the implied rogue faction within the machines Dark Fate has flaws too, but it feels like the freshest that a terminator movie has felt in ages. It manages to capture a fair amount of the vibe of T2, without feeling too much like a direct knockoff. The 2 main characters were great, and it's a shame we won't get any follow up movies to flesh them out a bit. They actually finally got the casting right! (see later) I feel like the crap box-office performance of Dark Fate shows that they've basically run the series into the ground and burned up any possible good will or interest. Ironically, one of the problems the series has had is that they kept 'rebooting' it after each failure, meaning that the usual solution in such a situation is now kinda off the table. I know I'm in a minority, but I actually didn't mind T3 too much. The casting is terrible, and that's been a problem with most of the sequels (T3, T4, T5). I feel like if they'd had a different main actor, it might actually have worked quite well. It suffered from a lack of budget and some iffy comedy moments, but I really liked the ending. T4 should have been good. The casting seemed good on paper. I always dreamed of a 'future' terminator movie following John Connor and the resistance. Some of the future design like the flying carriers was kinda cool. But the whole thing just didn't really come together into anything satisfying, mainly because I didn't really care about the main characters very much. Genisys was just terrible on every level. Bad story. Bad action scenes. Bad acting. Terrible casting. I think it probably killed off any chance Dark Fate had. This is all spot-on IMHO. The ordering is absolutely correct. Re: casting yeah, T3-5 could all have been improved there. Re: T3 the other mistake was where it was set though imho, and it was a serious one. Terminator is ultimately about cities and machines and industrial structures and factories and so on. That's the vibe. I don't recall the details with T3 but it really manages to dodge that vibe big-time, instead having this sort of green, outdoorsy feel a lot of the time, and the industrial environments don't feel either very high-tech or brutal and scary. Genisys as a bonus also inexplicably decided to move things to San Franscisco, which is just far too twee for this sort of thing. It's like if I can't see concrete in every outdoor shot in a Terminator movie, should that scene be there? Some should, sure, but there's a limit. Also totally agree re: Genisys shitting the bed for Dark Fate. There's this surprisingly rarely-acknowledged phenomenon where, unless the marketing able to really clearly separate them, or there's a huge space of time, the quality of the previous game or movie seriously impacts the performance of the next one. If the previous game/movie was good, obviously that's a good thing. If it wasn't well-received, though... |
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Post by 😎 on Dec 6, 2021 17:22:34 GMT
The weird thing about T3's setting feeling off is that it's set and filmed in LA, just like T1. They just didn't do anything in the city itself and stuck to the suburbs.
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Post by Psiloc on Dec 6, 2021 17:42:49 GMT
It was also lit like a soap opera and nearly everything took place in broad daylight, like all good horror films.
A similar problem affected T4 if memory serves? I know it didn’t retain the future aesthetic of the original films at all
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Post by 😎 on Dec 6, 2021 17:46:22 GMT
Salvation was set before the main bulk of the war, eleven years before the assault on Skynet. I don't think it's terrible if you ignore Sam Worthington and Anton Yelchin (while a perfectly fine actor, I don't think anyone wanted to see Kyle Reese - The College Years), they're the ones that drag it down in my opinion.
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Post by Psiloc on Dec 6, 2021 17:54:24 GMT
At the time with T3 I remember thinking “well at least the next film will be the future war” which should have been an open goal. I only saw T4 once and barely remember it but I know it was nothing like the future depicted in T1&2 and nowhere near as interesting.
By the way I can’t find who said it earlier but I’m on team Theatrical Cut for T2. I like the CPU scene and wouldn’t have cut that out, but the film was paced better without the other stuff. And I love T1 but the Kyle Reese cameo was downright cringe
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 7, 2021 2:30:01 GMT
Terminator Resistance looks interesting to me. I might pick it up if it's cheap. It's hard to really screw up a single player FPS, and the theming looks good. They are a bit overlooked now, but Terminator Future Shock and Skynet were awesome FPS games in their time. They really captured the 'broken LA city hellscape' vibe of the future scenes of T1/T2. Plus they had decent stories and the semi open-world gameplay with driveable and flyable vehicles. Future Shock came out almost simultaneously with Daggerfall, and was by far the better game tbh. Re: T3 the other mistake was where it was set though imho, and it was a serious one. Terminator is ultimately about cities and machines and industrial structures and factories and so on. That's the vibe. I don't recall the details with T3 but it really manages to dodge that vibe big-time, instead having this sort of green, outdoorsy feel That's an interesting point about the setting for T3 and T5. I think in many ways Terminator is a product of the 80s... the fear of nuclear war, the idea of US cities becoming dangerous no-go areas, etc.. I think in the 90s / 2000s that idea kinda lost its appeal. Though I wonder if it might have more appeal recently. By the way I can’t find who said it earlier but I’m on team Theatrical Cut for T2. I like the CPU scene and wouldn’t have cut that out, but the film was paced better without the other stuff. And I love T1 but the Kyle Reese cameo was downright cringe Yup. I have a hybrid cut that keeps the CPU scene and a few other little touches, but cuts out some of the other unnecessary scenes that slow things down. I seem to remember there's a loooong scene in the middle introducing Dyson, which totally kills the pacing and is totally unnecessary. |
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Post by 😎 on Dec 7, 2021 2:36:00 GMT
Future Shock is fantastic. All of Bethesda’s Terminator games were pretty great, the original was a fully 3D open world game with drivable cars. In 1991.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 7, 2021 4:47:48 GMT
Yeah. It came out about the same time as Quake, depending on the territory, so it was actually my first experience of a (almost) full 3d FPS with mouselook. Plus it had a story and driveable vehicles and grenades on alt-fire, etc..
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Post by Psiloc on Dec 7, 2021 9:25:50 GMT
I had Future Shock as a kid. My parents got it me one Xmas... and a joystick to play it with.
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Post by Psiloc on Dec 7, 2021 9:28:15 GMT
I really can't understand why the CPU scene was cut. It was really well made, involved important character development and even critical plot information. There must have been some external pressure to bring the runtime down or something
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 9:43:14 GMT
Future Shock was great, I think I played more of SkyNET though but they really did get the vibe of the future war stuff spot on.
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Post by Snake on Dec 7, 2021 11:52:54 GMT
Really?
Many big name franchises still seem to manage...
I've never seen a cut with Reese in T2, it was always in the deleted scenes.
I think it's a nice glimpse of Sarah being vulnerable again and her usual laser focussed behaviour being an auto-pilot mode, almost terminator like.
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Post by Psiloc on Dec 7, 2021 12:19:20 GMT
Home releases of this film are a mess tbh. Some force the theatrical version on you and some force the extended edition. Seems the current UHD release is theatrical only but contains a standard BR which contains the additional footage but not colour matched
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Post by lexw on Dec 7, 2021 13:37:09 GMT
Yeah. It came out about the same time as Quake, depending on the territory, so it was actually my first experience of a (almost) full 3d FPS with mouselook. Plus it had a story and driveable vehicles and grenades on alt-fire, etc.. I remember the Bethesda Terminator games as being pretty great also, but at the same time I can see why Future Shock got so overlooked next to Quake. Future Shock was much more like a modern game in a lot of ways, but the actual gameplay in terms of shooting your guns and walking around and so on wasn't that different to stuff from the '80s, even. It was clunky as heck, even though the elements were there. Whereas Quake was a revelation. Its gameplay didn't feel like something that had been done before. They way you saw and interacted with the levels felt much more dynamic - even though it kinda wasn't. But the overall game was much more simplistic. And I think this caused a rush of people trying to imitate Quake, and 3D open worlds and so on got forgotten about for a bit. It's a pity really. |
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Post by beastmaster on Dec 7, 2021 15:05:39 GMT
They're not doing any more of these anytime soon, right?
1 and 2 are all you need. Cannon. Not cannon. I really don't give a damn about all that bullshit and the continuation of the saga. Might provide some entertainment but that's about it.
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Post by khanivor on Dec 7, 2021 15:16:07 GMT
I came in here to ask folks for bets when the next one will be announced.
It’s going to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 15:18:38 GMT
Terminator needs moar cannons.
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Post by beastmaster on Dec 7, 2021 16:24:58 GMT
Terminator needs moar cannons.  |
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