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Post by dangerousdave on May 10, 2024 14:46:21 GMT
Bring it all to Switch 2! That’s where all the Minecraft players are anyway.
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Post by robthehermit on May 10, 2024 14:48:24 GMT
Bring it all to Switch 2! That’s where all the Minecraft players are anyway. Well, they are calling it the RoG Ally X. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 10, 2024 14:52:15 GMT
According to some ex-box people that someone from ign spoke to, it's very much "Microsoft Gaming" now as opposed to Xbox. They should definitely ressurect Games for Windows that totally great initiative that wasn't at all a trainwreck and in no way broke certain games making them impossible to play. |
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Post by theguy on May 10, 2024 14:56:14 GMT
The mobile market might be far more important to them than anything console/Xbox related honestly. Doesn't Candy Crush alone still bring in hundreds of millions a year? I would wager that's why they have no real issue getting rid of the likes of Tango Gameworks
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Post by baihu1983 on May 10, 2024 15:04:07 GMT
The mobile market might be far more important to them than anything console/Xbox related honestly. Doesn't Candy Crush alone still bring in hundreds of millions a year? I would wager that's why they have no real issue getting rid of the likes of Tango Gameworks Read it makes over 600m in the US alone each year. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 10, 2024 15:24:04 GMT
Yeah, think King was almost the real reason behind the purchase.
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Post by Ulythium on May 10, 2024 16:03:42 GMT
I like Skill Up's take on the latest developments:
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Post by mothercruncher on May 10, 2024 16:24:19 GMT
It’s a corpo nightmare.
But, I’ll forgive them if they bring out a sweet new controller in redundancy cheque green 👌
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Post by Vandelay on May 10, 2024 17:56:31 GMT
Yeah, think King was almost the real reason behind the purchase. No doubt about that. The IP for Warcraft, Diablo and Call of Duty are the sprinkles, but the sundae is definitely King and their mobile games. Can't see them giving much of a shit about the makers of Prey and The Evil Within in comparison. |
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Post by Tuffty on May 10, 2024 18:07:13 GMT
The other fucked thing about all this is that they couldn't just offer these studios up for tender and sell them on. "Oh, we don't want them but we definitely don't want YOU having them most of all" so they dismantle them completely
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Post by Frog on May 10, 2024 18:17:12 GMT
If you do that the IP would go with them. Anyone that wants the studios could easily reach out to them and recruit them for no cost now.
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Post by JonFE on May 10, 2024 18:29:20 GMT
If you do that the IP would go with them. Anyone that wants the studios could easily reach out to them and recruit them for no cost now. That's true. One man's rejects are another's recruits or something. Too bad the current economy climate is not ideal for too much growth, but I hope the best will land on their feet soon. |
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Post by Ulythium on May 10, 2024 18:29:23 GMT
If the bigwigs at Microsoft have determined that, say, the Hi-Fi Rush IP is worthless to them, would it really matter if another company took ownership thereof?
Okay, so Phil Spencer and his buddies would be pretty pissed off if they sold Tango to Sony, along with the Hi-Fi IP, and Sony wound up making shedloads of cash on Hi-Fi Rush 2... but hey, tough titties! That's the risk you take.
This 'dog in a manger' approach - "We don't give a toss about this company/IP, but we don't want anyone else to have it either" - just plain sucks.
Moreover, I don't believe it's inevitable that IP rights would be transferred along with the studios in a sale scenario.
When Square Enix decided that they didn't want IO Interactive any longer, they negotiated a deal to sell the developer, and included the Hitman IP with the sale; however, IO Interactive didn't get to keep Kane & Lynch, which remained with Square. |
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Post by baihu1983 on May 10, 2024 18:39:58 GMT
Yeah no guarantee they get to keep the IPs. IO got to keep Hitman but not the mighty Mini Ninjas
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Post by Whizzo on May 10, 2024 18:44:08 GMT
They kept Freedom Fighters, maybe they'll get around to actually making a sequel to one of their best games.
Do it IOI!
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Post by apollo on May 10, 2024 18:45:53 GMT
Kane & Lynch rights are pretty much worthless, 2nd naff games. IO got the best IP rights
Sure MS wanted to keep the rights to hi-fi rush and sit on them until they want a new game. As mentioned you can sell a studio with IP rights to games but its harder to sell
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Post by Ulythium on May 10, 2024 19:36:17 GMT
Kane & Lynch rights are pretty much worthless, 2nd naff games. IO got the best IP rights
No doubt about that, but the point is that you can sell a studio while retaining IP rights if you so choose.
MS could've chosen to sell Tango and Arkane Austin, with or without the franchises made by those developers, but opted to shut them down altogether instead.
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Post by baihu1983 on May 10, 2024 19:46:00 GMT
Most do sadly. Embracer could have stood half the studios they closed.
Guess they see it as better to just get rid of everyone rather than keep paying them while looking for a buyer.
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Post by JuniorFE on May 10, 2024 20:05:49 GMT
Or it's a case of "We can't have them, but we don't want anyone else to have them either so fuck you"... Just because they can't/don't care to handle that many studios doesn't mean that they want others to profit off of their output (even if they deem it insignificant enough to scupper them)
/cynical
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Post by theguy on May 10, 2024 20:24:49 GMT
The mobile market might be far more important to them than anything console/Xbox related honestly. Doesn't Candy Crush alone still bring in hundreds of millions a year? I would wager that's why they have no real issue getting rid of the likes of Tango Gameworks Read it makes over 600m in the US alone each year. Blimey. That's a lot of Hifi Rush's |
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Post by baihu1983 on May 10, 2024 20:45:04 GMT
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Post by Resident Knievel on May 13, 2024 22:30:41 GMT
Now that Microsoft is trying to become a cut-throat publisher rather than a badly run platform holder what franchises of theirs are actually safe and have a future?
I feel like they'll continue to fund development and publish most of the projects that we've already heard about (e.g. Fable, Avowed) but after that there's probably only a few game series that are certain to get future releases:
COD
WOW
Overwatch
Diablo
Elder Scrolls
Fallout
Forza Horizon
Candy Crush
And these will probably live or die based on how their next entry sells:
Spyro
Crash Bandicoot
Halo
Gears
Everything else is probably going in the bin.
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Post by JonFE on May 13, 2024 23:35:27 GMT
I don't see them killing Halo (or Gears for that matter), but I would imagine with the abundance of dev studios under their banner, someone other than 343 Industries could either chip in or take over the franchise entirely.
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Post by Frog on May 14, 2024 6:59:22 GMT
Give it to infinity ward.
It's such a no brainer. Their cod games are closer to halo pace than the other cod studios and they make the best cod campaigns by a mile.
My only doubt would be the ability to do the enemy AI as cod doesn't really have any of note as they just beam you any time you pop up
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Post by Resident Knievel on May 14, 2024 7:16:29 GMT
As long as they stick to Halo being an Arena Shooter and stay away from loadouts they've experimented with in the past.
And I love Halo, even Halo Infinite despite its flaws, but the player base evaporated very quickly with it. If the next one gets the same reception MS might not bother with funding another one.
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Post by JonFE on May 14, 2024 7:46:06 GMT
Give it to infinity ward. It's such a no brainer. Their cod games are closer to halo pace than the other cod studios and they make the best cod campaigns by a mile. My only doubt would be the ability to do the enemy AI as cod doesn't really have any of note as they just beam you any time you pop up I'd imagine the existing Halo enemy AI code could be incorporated (or ported) into whatever game engine anyone else would use, so perhaps this sore thumb can be avoided. |
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Post by JonFE on May 14, 2024 7:49:13 GMT
If the next one gets the same reception MS might not bother with funding another one. That is certainly a concern. I just hope Halo flagship status will prevent it from becoming obsolete, but the latest single player campaigns were lacklustre IMO and I believe they need a helping hand in that department. |
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Post by Frog on May 14, 2024 7:57:54 GMT
Infinites campaign was quite well received in general. The server issues and desync pushed people away from multiplayer as they took ages to sort. Also the content was released at a glacial rate, people expect more now.
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Post by zisssou on May 14, 2024 8:08:54 GMT
Halo Modern Warfare.. 100 PVP.. Skins.. Battle Royale.. Seasons.. BATTLE PASS.
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Post by dangerousdave on May 14, 2024 8:40:09 GMT
They need to sort out how they run their teams. I think folk were discussing this in the Forza thread, but aren’t their developers on something ridiculous like 18 month contracts? They spend 6 months learning the job, 6 months doing the job and then 6 months handing over to new staff.
If that’s true, it’s absolutely no wonder why the likes of Halo, Forza Motorsport and the like took so long to develop and released in unfinished or incomplete states.
It’s shocking a company so wealthy cannot organise development teams properly.
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