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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 19, 2022 7:17:52 GMT
Depends what you like innit. Some people are happy with Nintendo stuff- I have been for a while
Kena is a bit of a blow though
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Jan 19, 2022 7:37:40 GMT
Depends if you like waiting 3 years between games.
Then getting Mario.
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Post by spacein_vader on Jan 19, 2022 7:45:55 GMT
You misspelt PC. As for crying Sony COD bros, anyone playing an fps without a mouse has already failed. Fluffy torn between Cat-person and PC-person. FWIW I'm a cat person too. And the FPS thing was tongue in cheek. It's objectively the most accurate way to play one but gaming is and should be open to all. |
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Post by malek86 on Jan 19, 2022 7:47:25 GMT
I wonder what exactly went into Nadella's mind as he agreed to this. A few years ago he was almost going to shut down the Xbox brand, and now they just spent 70 billion dollars on a videogames company.
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Post by nazo on Jan 19, 2022 7:52:54 GMT
It's high time these gaming corporate take-overs were done Syndicate style with miniguns, rocket launchers and persuadatrons. |
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 19, 2022 8:07:35 GMT
Much like any large gaming acquisitions, the big name titles eventually fade away and lose their shine. When Playstation users come to terms with not being able to play the next Elder Scrolls or Call of Duty, or Overwatch, they'll move on to something else. Other developers will grow to fill that void over time and new, sought after series will take their places. As a Switch user primarily, I've played very little made by the biggest western 3rd party publishers and I've never really felt like I was missing much. Depends on your tastes, the clear majority of the games I like are Japanese, a lot of the Western AAA stuff leaves me cold. However, being only on Switch you still miss out on the likes of the From Software games, Capcom stuff like Resident Evil, FF7 Remake, the Ryu Ga Gotoku stuff from Sega, JRPGs like Persona 5, great Playstation exclusives such as Ghost of Tsushima, Returnal, Ratchet and Clank, Death Stranding, Nioh, Spiderman etc. It's not just Call of Duty and Halol you miss out on, |
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 19, 2022 8:08:01 GMT
Depends if you like waiting 3 years between games. Then getting Mario. I miss the dislike button. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 19, 2022 8:18:43 GMT
Did I miss something? I thought that was dead and gone. Still ticking along afaik, but not huge. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 19, 2022 8:33:54 GMT
Depends if you like waiting 3 years between games. Then getting Mario. I miss the dislike button. Yeah, that’s bullshit. As if they have halved their development time. |
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 19, 2022 8:36:10 GMT
I miss the dislike button. Yeah, that’s bullshit. As if they have halved their development time. Missing it more now  |
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Post by Danno on Jan 19, 2022 8:36:25 GMT
Can Phil Spencer arrange for Bobby Kotick to be fired out of a cannon as soon as the ink on the contract is dry? Preferably a cannon aimed towards a live volcano, with Kotick being denied a parachute (golden or otherwise)? Jonny Depp might be able to help ya there. |
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Post by Danno on Jan 19, 2022 8:37:53 GMT
If nothing else they can force Smart Delivery on the arseholes. Oooooooh yeah 😀 |
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Jan 19, 2022 8:42:08 GMT
Fluffy torn between Cat-person and PC-person. FWIW I'm a cat person too. And the FPS thing was tongue in cheek. It's objectively the most accurate way to play one but gaming is and should be open to all. No worries, I wasn't completely serious either  |
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 19, 2022 8:44:46 GMT
I just read on Twitter that MS could have bought Sega, Capcom, Square, Konami, Ubisoft and EA for less than they paid for Activision.
It’s mental.
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Post by malek86 on Jan 19, 2022 8:46:56 GMT
I just read on Twitter that MS could have bought Sega, Capcom, Square, Konami, Ubisoft and EA for less than they paid for Activision. It’s mental. Sounds like bullshit. EA alone would be worth as much as Activision due to their money-printing FUT business. And those other companies (except maybe Konami, lol) would cost no less than $10 billions each. Probably much more, if we live in a world where freaking Zynga is valued at $12 billions. |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jan 19, 2022 8:51:56 GMT
I wonder what exactly went into Nadella's mind as he agreed to this. A few years ago he was almost going to shut down the Xbox brand, and now they just spent 70 billion dollars on a videogames company. 70 billion of 2.2 Trillion is 3%. Just to put things into perspective. |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jan 19, 2022 8:58:47 GMT
This little line from the internal email is probably directly targeted at concerns about Activision:
"We’re looking forward to extending our culture of proactive inclusion to the great teams across Activision Blizzard.”
The picture that includes the leadership team under Spencer in the press release was slightly majority female and made a point of he/him she/her statements.
Basically they're planning of ridding them of that cunt and that culture.
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Post by Derblington on Jan 19, 2022 9:06:02 GMT
I just read on Twitter that MS could have bought Sega, Capcom, Square, Konami, Ubisoft and EA for less than they paid for Activision. It’s mental. Sounds like bullshit. EA alone would be worth as much as Activision due to their money-printing FUT business. And those other companies (except maybe Konami, lol) would cost no less than $10 billions each. Probably much more, if we live in a world where freaking Zynga is valued at $12 billions. Nope. EA is at almost $38b today (and everyone got a bump yesterday after the news broke). Acti was at about $50b right before the aquisition, so they paid about 30% premium. |
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Post by Danno on Jan 19, 2022 9:09:35 GMT
Just musing, but the value of a listed company on the market in no way represents its potential to earn (see Tesla, Ocado, any block chain related outfit), and any purchase will be leveraged accordingly. Id be very surprised if MS paid all cash* for this deal, instead of some combination of cash, low-interest (which is as low as can be) hedged debt, share options and some other financial shenanigans
*I have not looked at any details that do not involve Bobby Kotick getting royally kicked in the Bobbys
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Post by malek86 on Jan 19, 2022 9:10:09 GMT
Market cap is pretty pointless imo. If we go by that, MS could have bought Nintendo for 100 billions, including a hefty premium. But I don't think they would have agreed.
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Post by malek86 on Jan 19, 2022 9:15:12 GMT
I wonder what exactly went into Nadella's mind as he agreed to this. A few years ago he was almost going to shut down the Xbox brand, and now they just spent 70 billion dollars on a videogames company. 70 billion of 2.2 Trillion is 3%. Just to put things into perspective. 70 billions is an entire year of profits for MS. Of course, the money must flow, so if they didn't do this, they would have probably bought something else. But still... it just feels a bit excessive, considering gaming is not their biggest business by far. Maybe they thought their other businesses were already solid enough, and gaming was the one that needed an uplift the most. |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jan 19, 2022 9:20:33 GMT
Also it's not like they're buying a company that doesn't generate it's own profit. It should pay for it' self, literally.
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Post by dangerousdave on Jan 19, 2022 9:51:15 GMT
As a Switch user primarily, I've played very little made by the biggest western 3rd party publishers and I've never really felt like I was missing much. You were missing much Like what? |
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Post by theguy on Jan 19, 2022 9:55:15 GMT
I wonder what exactly went into Nadella's mind as he agreed to this. A few years ago he was almost going to shut down the Xbox brand, and now they just spent 70 billion dollars on a videogames company. It's like MS suddenly woke up to how much revenue the gaming industry generates. It's shithuge. Cornering this market while having Phil Spencer talk about how much he loves the gamers and wants what's best for them is probably seen as quite viable now. I think MS put microtransactions in most of their games already, buying up some big publishers is likely how they envision themselves as the "Netflix of gaming" going forward. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 9:57:37 GMT
I know I should care and it is bad for the industry. But as someone who like single player games I genuinely don't give a shit. When was the last time MS actually made a system selling single player game? Sony and Nintendo are wonderful for that and keep coming out with creative and innovative stuff. I am surprised MS have doubled down on what they already do rather than expanding their remit.
I was much more annoyed by Bethesda which I also thought made more sense in expanding the breadth of their games output.
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Post by snackplissken on Jan 19, 2022 10:00:56 GMT
All I want is for MS to sell back all the gaming franchises from RARE to Nintendo. Please.
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Post by dangerousdave on Jan 19, 2022 10:18:50 GMT
I should have probably pointed out I'm talking specifically about EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Bethesda as the major Western AAA publishers. Those publishers just very rarely release games that appeal to me and those they do happen to be on Switch (although I've played them on other consoles).
You can completely disregard my post though as my tastes are pretty particular and polarising compared to the EG community. I just sold my second PS4 to CeX a few days ago because I couldn't get into Horizon, Spiderman and God of War. Hadn't touched iy for the best part of a year.
I do have a Series X, which has allowed me to play some of the fancier looking stuff the Switch doesn't have, like the Resident Evil games, Halo and Forza, but it still comfortably plays second fiddle to the Switch.
Gamepass is great for the indie stuff though, which is, in my opinion, almost always more interesting than the big budget stuff.
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Post by unrealkilla on Jan 19, 2022 11:11:20 GMT
MS should have bought Sega instead, and spent the extra money hiring talent, restructuring, and rebooting franchises. Would have come out of it heroes.
Instead they spend $70bn on dicking PlayStation over Call of Duty, that even hardened fans have stopped buying every year and doesn't have the commanding position it once had.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 19, 2022 11:14:22 GMT
MS should have bought Sega instead, and spent the extra money hiring talent, restructuring, and rebooting franchises. Would have come out of it heroes. Instead they spend $70bn on dicking PlayStation over Call of Duty, that even hardened fans have stopped buying every year and doesn't have the commanding position it once had. That's definitely why the spent 70 billion, to fuck with PlayStation CoD players for the lolz. |
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Post by Phattso on Jan 19, 2022 11:22:42 GMT
I mean, I think I could get behind that. Sony could then do the same in reverse, and it becomes a slap fight.
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