Horizon Forbidden West

I don't think its comparable. I think you could upgrade if you had the original for a tenner if I remember right. And if you bought physical it came with Miles Morales as part of the ultimate edition.

I'll happily eat my words if it's less than £50.

I agree Spiderman didn't need to be remastered but at least the way it was offered had some added value.

This'll just be a panicked gap filler now Sony realise their whole live service planned release calendar is kaput.

Yeah sadly that I do agree with. It will sell. I'm not sure how people have been convinced that a re-release is something to look forward to.

I suppose the difference is that it was a 'generational' remaster of a well loved game, dragging it from the PS4 to PS5 whereas it seems like people generally don't really give a shit about this game?

I dunno, I was similarly lukewarm for a remaster of Spiderman, tbh, this is not a new opinion I have, but I did enjoy it when I played it on PS+ and have to admit it was kinda worth it. The framerate and graphical fancies uplift were pretty transformational so, yeah, fine. I just can't see that being true of this at all, mainly because I thought the game was boring and couldn't really give a shit if they updated it to run inside my frontal cortex.

I think this exactly the reason for this release. Astro Bot is an interesting one as it takes so many assets from previous games as far back as Rescue Mission for the PSVR which explains why 60 people were able to get this done in the speed they did it. At this point you're not getting anything from Naughty Dog et al until late 2025 mid 2026. Although we'll have to see when GTA is released as I doubt it's making 2025 and there'll be so many games having to change their release if it lands in 2026.

Definitely sounds like a release for the sake of it, just to tell investors. This cycle of taking 5+ years to make a game is coming to bite devs as there is nothing to put out, so pile resources into remasters and remakes. Used to be we would have a new Ratchet and Clank game every year or two. Different times now I guess for these AAAA games.

Also the issue of, oh I'll give it another go (12+ months later) and you end up having to start again because you can't remember how to actually play it or remember what it was you intended to do in whatever area you load back into. Then either you get back into it or you do the same again in another 12 months.

Edit: oh and no I also don't intend to play this again. I completed the original release and got the DLC a few years later and never even started that properly.

Got the latest one and I've put a good few hours into that but again I've not played that since as I can't be bothered.

I suspect this remaster is also tied heavily into the LEGO Horizon game that's due soon, so that new/younger players who fall for that have a brand-new, shiny PS5 version to buy once they're done.

Same as TLOU Pt1 was ready for TV show viewers to jump in on.

And revisiting Lego versions of iconic locations like The Field, The Mountain and The Snowy Bit.

I think what bugs me about HZD, despite me liking the story.. none of the characters felt like this could carry a franchise. Feel all a bit weak sauce. Sure, Aloy is the franchise face, but there's just something I think Guerrilla Games have never been great at, which is why Killzone kind of is seen as this generic shooter.

I thought Sylens was the only charismatic character in it but it is Lance Reddick tbf. That voice was so fucking smooth RIP.

I understand WHY they're doing this, but...




Where's the Bloodborne remaster??

*Screams like the Cleric Beast*

Is this gonna be an upgrade (pref free) of the existing pc hzd/frozen wilds gotye or are they suggesting a whole new game?

Most likely a new game as it would seem to be using the Forbidden West Engine because for intents and purposes the PC version of the OG Horizon at max settings would be the remaster. So we're looking at Last of Us Part 1 style thing here at full price.