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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 19, 2024 14:43:35 GMT
Is this gonna be an upgrade (pref free) of the existing pc hzd/frozen wilds gotye or are they suggesting a whole new game? Most likely a new game as it would seem to be using the Forbidden West Engine because for intents and purposes the PC version of the OG Horizon at max settings would be the remaster. So we're looking at Last of Us Part 1 style thing here at full price. shame. It already looked a bit nice running at full tilt on pc honestly. Moving to the new engine for some better animations and a bit more fidelity I don't feel is convincing anybody who already owns it to re-dip. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd perhaps pay a few quid for an upgrade to the existing copy I own but I'm not paying full price, so either not for me or one for the bargain bin much later Which reminds me, after wandering off to play forbidden west I really need to go back and do the frozen dlc Wonder what will be the next remaster ... knack? |
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Post by Tuffty on Sept 19, 2024 15:45:14 GMT
It would be very typical for an official announcement of this to be overshadowed with the Switch 2 news. Zero Dawn came out a week before Breath of the Wild and Forbidden West before Elden Ring. Has always been in another franchises long shadow. I wouldn't even say it's in it shadow. It's like in another universe although I always thought Horizon's closest comparison was Monster Hunter which it still doesn't come close to. What I mean is each time Horizon has come out, a bigger game immediately follows that dominates playtime and discussion. Nobody talking about Zero Dawn when Breath of the Wild came out a week later. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 19, 2024 15:46:59 GMT
Ahhh gotcha. It is quite forgettable.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 19, 2024 15:51:26 GMT
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Post by damagedinc on Sept 19, 2024 16:01:39 GMT
Am I going mad. I haven't played the sequel and I thought it was on psplus?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 19, 2024 16:04:22 GMT
Am I going mad. I haven't played the sequel and I thought it was on psplus? I think it was recently removed. Can't have you enjoying that. |
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Post by deez on Sept 25, 2024 6:02:14 GMT
I dunno I think it is comparable. We don't know how it will be sold or the cost. I'm in the mind that this game doesn't need to exist just like Spider-Man Remastered didn't need to exist but here we are. I'll happily eat my words if it's less than £50. I agree Spiderman didn't need to be remastered but at least the way it was offered had some added value. This'll just be a panicked gap filler now Sony realise their whole live service planned release calendar is kaput. Hello! I am here to eat my words. Slightly impressed they are still doing a £10 upgrade. |
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Post by X201 on Sept 25, 2024 6:04:46 GMT
I'll happily eat my words if it's less than £50. I agree Spiderman didn't need to be remastered but at least the way it was offered had some added value. This'll just be a panicked gap filler now Sony realise their whole live service planned release calendar is kaput. Hello! I am here to eat my words. Slightly impressed they are still doing a £10 upgrade. It gets better, you can get the update for £9.99 even if you got the game for free during the ‘Play at Home’ Covid pandemic promotion. And old saves still work too |
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Post by rftp on Sept 25, 2024 6:08:13 GMT
Am I going mad. I haven't played the sequel and I thought it was on psplus? I think it was recently removed. Can't have you enjoying that. Shame that I never got around to playing it, even for free. |
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Post by deez on Sept 25, 2024 6:20:52 GMT
Hello! I am here to eat my words. Slightly impressed they are still doing a £10 upgrade. It gets better, you can get the update for £9.99 even if you got the game for free during the ‘Play at Home’ Covid pandemic promotion. And old saves still work too Yep I have that, though I very much doubt I will actually play it.. the sequel just has too much exposition to wade through for me. |
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Post by Frog on Sept 25, 2024 6:39:39 GMT
I enjoyed horizon but there is nothing that would make me want to play through it again. It's a one and done for me, even the sequel felt a bit too familiar.
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Post by pierrepressure on Sept 25, 2024 6:50:03 GMT
Enjoyed both games even though they screwed the story for the second one but they're just too recent for me to think about playing through again.
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Post by dangerousdave on Sept 25, 2024 6:56:20 GMT
Yeah. Revealing Adam West to be the ‘Forbidden West’ was a stretch too far
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Post by Frog on Sept 25, 2024 6:57:57 GMT
It was worse in the sequel when they used Kanye
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 25, 2024 7:18:31 GMT
At least they didn't use Rose
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Post by Frog on Sept 25, 2024 7:27:47 GMT
Well done you just spoiled the final game.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 25, 2024 7:32:30 GMT
Horizon: Victorious West?
/Nickelodeon deep cut that everyone here is too old for
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 25, 2024 7:51:53 GMT
I enjoyed horizon but there is nothing that would make me want to play through it again. It's a one and done for me, even the sequel felt a bit too familiar. Yeah, same. I really enjoyed HZD and even the DLC but HFW was just (a lot) more of the same. I think one thing they really dropped the ball on was, somewhat inevitably, fridgeing the black guy. Someone who had similar skills and abilities to Aloy so could have shouldered a lot of those interminable side quests rather than having the slightly laughable scenario of the entire country revolving entirely around one person. Send Karl or whatever his name is off to find the lost children or collect circuits or something. Same as GTA5, just being able to flip to another character would have given us a break from the Aloy who became unbearable by the end. |
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Post by Frog on Sept 25, 2024 7:56:23 GMT
I'm amazed the GTA character switching didn't get used loads more in open world games.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 25, 2024 8:50:21 GMT
This is more of a me thing, than a generalised. As I've got older, I think modern sequels are becoming less interesting to me. Someone said about how GoW Ragnarok was a weaker story, where it turned into End Game. HFW was just.. tedious. Perhaps Spider-Man was more of the same, but somewhat got a pass. As much as I'm excited for Ghost of Yotei, is it just going to be more of the same, and tread too closely to the game mechanics of the first, thus becoming boring. Also to add Nintendo.. TotK again, I just didn't enjoy it as much as BotW.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 25, 2024 8:55:46 GMT
Ragnarok less so but the problem with most modern media is that you never get a definitive, self contained story so the experience is inevitably unsatisfying. At best, you get something like Spiderman that does have a beginning and end but spends ages setting up side characters and stories for sequels so you know the tale isn't quite over and, at worst, you get something like this which is (hopefully) the middle part of a trilogy so you have to spend potentially hundreds of hours over three games to see the stupid thing through to conclusion.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 25, 2024 8:58:33 GMT
This is more of a me thing, than a generalised. As I've got older, I think modern sequels are becoming less interesting to me. Someone said about how GoW Ragnarok was a weaker story, where it turned into End Game. HFW was just.. tedious. Perhaps Spider-Man was more of the same, but somewhat got a pass. As much as I'm excited for Ghost of Yotei, is it just going to be more of the same, and tread too closely to the game mechanics of the first, thus becoming boring. Also to add Nintendo.. TotK again, I just didn't enjoy it as much as BotW. Mic drop MOAN I didn't think BotW was all that tbh. |
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Post by Frog on Sept 25, 2024 8:59:31 GMT
Games should follow the Korean drama TV model. They are almost always one and done as a self contained story with an ending, and very few things get to see more than one.
At least with the AC games they are all self contained so you can pick what you like out of the series without being committed to playing them all.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 25, 2024 9:02:51 GMT
This is more of a me thing, than a generalised. As I've got older, I think modern sequels are becoming less interesting to me. Someone said about how GoW Ragnarok was a weaker story, where it turned into End Game. HFW was just.. tedious. Perhaps Spider-Man was more of the same, but somewhat got a pass. As much as I'm excited for Ghost of Yotei, is it just going to be more of the same, and tread too closely to the game mechanics of the first, thus becoming boring. Also to add Nintendo.. TotK again, I just didn't enjoy it as much as BotW. Mic drop MOAN I didn't think BotW was all that tbh. Do I need to post the Nintendo picture again? You're on thin ice. |
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Post by pierrepressure on Sept 25, 2024 9:03:08 GMT
It helps that no one knows what's going on in those games too.
*edit in reference to Ass Creed.
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Post by wunty on Sept 25, 2024 9:03:14 GMT
It's tough though. Change too much in a sequel and you risk alienating the fanbase of the original one, and companies can't risk losing sales on innovation with an established IP.
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Post by Ulythium on Sept 25, 2024 9:08:20 GMT
For me, HFW dropped the ball by not innovating enough ("Our gameplay's more of the same, but now you have a GLIDER!"), and by really shitting the proverbial bed with its story.
Still a solid experience overall - and I think I like Aloy as a character more than most - but I won't be looking forward to the third game anywhere near as much as I looked forward to HFW itself.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 25, 2024 9:17:31 GMT
Ragnarok less so but the problem with most modern media is that you never get a definitive, self contained story so the experience is inevitably unsatisfying. At best, you get something like Spiderman that does have a beginning and end but spends ages setting up side characters and stories for sequels so you know the tale isn't quite over and, at worst, you get something like this which is (hopefully) the middle part of a trilogy so you have to spend potentially hundreds of hours over three games to see the stupid thing through to conclusion. you could play HZD and pretty much call it at that point because it was fairly well contained. HFW, while pretty didn't really add anything new to the existing story (Faro, Sobek and all the tech lead up to Zero Dawn) it just inserted new shit in the backstory so they could jump forward and tack more stuff on to extend the threat and give you a reason to go out west and shoot new robosaurs. HFW story felt surplus to requirement, I just wanted to do more stuff in the world and hunt robots. I'll probably do the same again for 3. |
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Post by zisssou on Sept 25, 2024 9:18:12 GMT
It's tough though. Change too much in a sequel and you risk alienating the fanbase of the original one, and companies can't risk losing sales on innovation with an established IP. Of course, but I think some sequels could do with changing up the flow of the game. For HDZ, it's fairly cut and paste, with some new mechanics. I'm no game designer, but it would have been cool to take on some massive machines, like Shadow of the Colossus mechanic style. Climbing the Tall Neck is somewhat there already. |
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Post by rftp on Sept 25, 2024 9:23:55 GMT
It helps that no one knows what's going on in those games too. *edit in reference to Ass Creed. Person go stabby. |
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