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Post by JonFE on Feb 7, 2023 10:46:05 GMT
I could never say that Halo 4 and 5 were good campaigns let alone good Halo campaigns. Infinite too, great gunplay and movement but a campaign that lacked structure, good level design and setpieces. Fair point on 4&5, I couldn't even finish 5. Disagree regarding infinite not being great although yeah it needed more epic moments like halo 1-reach. I think reach and 3 are two of the best campaigns ever. I'd also include ODST among the best Halo campaigns, mostly for the great -almost noir- atmosphere  |
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Post by bichii2 on Feb 7, 2023 10:49:01 GMT
And that's why they typed halo 1-reach |
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Post by JonFE on Feb 7, 2023 10:50:14 GMT
I didn't take "-" as "to", reading comprehension failed me, my bad |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 7, 2023 10:52:12 GMT
Halo 3 and Reach were brilliant because they started small with their levels and got bigger, Infinite lost a lot of that with having a fair few missions in the open world, the missions set in closed locations were somewhat hit and miss. If you can actually name 3 memorable events/missions in Infinite the way you can about 3 and Reach I'd be impressed.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 7, 2023 10:59:51 GMT
If we're recommending Bioshock as an FPS, there's also Daikatana
Agreed about the atmosphere in ODST but the story is quite silly
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 7, 2023 11:14:36 GMT
This is probably my ignorance talking, but I've never regarded BioShock, Deus Ex, Prey, Dishonored etc. as FPSs.
CoD, Battlefield, Metro, Doom, Rage, Titanfall, Crysis, Destiny, Far Cry, Homefront, Killzone, Overwatch, and Wolfenstein, sure.
Borderlands? Hmm. Not sure.
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Post by bichii2 on Feb 7, 2023 11:16:55 GMT
Bioshock is pretty non stock action between the occasional exploring or dialogue.
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Post by deekyfun on Feb 7, 2023 11:17:32 GMT
We (as a gestalt entity) count No One Lives Forever as a FPS, yes?
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 7, 2023 11:17:46 GMT
They're FPS games with a bit more character/world depth in their gameplay. More FPS/RPG cross
Borderlands has more in common with Diablo but 3 plays great as a moment to moment FPS
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 12:19:35 GMT
This is probably my ignorance talking, but I've never regarded BioShock, Deus Ex, Prey, Dishonored etc. as FPSs. CoD, Battlefield, Metro, Doom, Rage, Titanfall, Crysis, Destiny, Far Cry, Homefront, Killzone, Overwatch, and Wolfenstein, sure. Borderlands? Hmm. Not sure. What would you class them as? |
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 7, 2023 12:25:42 GMT
What would you class them as?
BioShock/Prey - immersive sims.
Deus Ex - RPG/stealth/immersive sim.
Dishonored - stealth/immersive sim.
Borderlands - RPG/looter shooter.
I appreciate that it all gets a bit nebulous and subjective after a point, though, especially as the stealth elements of Deus Ex and Dishonored are 100% optional!
Oh, and I should probably specify that when it comes to Deus Ex, I'm only referring to the Adam Jensen titles - I don't know about the earlier ones. |
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Post by JonFE on Feb 7, 2023 12:30:29 GMT
We (as a gestalt entity) count No One Lives Forever as a FPS, yes? Yeah and a pretty good one at that!!! |
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Post by JonFE on Feb 7, 2023 12:33:58 GMT
If we're recommending Bioshock as an FPS, there's also Daikatana Come on Auntie, you cannot put Daikatana in the same breath as Bioshock, one wanted you to be its bitch, the other its sugar daddy (or something)  |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 7, 2023 12:39:49 GMT
I just really didn't like the shooting in Bioshock. It's so floaty and weightless. As a complete game, it's alright. As an FPS, it's not that fun to play
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Post by wunty on Feb 7, 2023 12:40:49 GMT
I just really didn't like the shooting in Bioshock. It's so floaty and weightless. As a complete game, it's alright. As an FPS, it's not that fun to play This is true. The game is great but the actual shooting is pish. |
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Post by Vortex on Feb 7, 2023 13:47:29 GMT
Still one of the very best worlds to explore ever. I love Bioshock so much (even if, yes, the shooting was a bit pish)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 13:56:55 GMT
Yep, Bioshock is a certified classic.
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Post by JonFE on Feb 7, 2023 14:07:18 GMT
...but not Daikatana levels of pish tho'... |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 7, 2023 14:11:38 GMT
TF2's campaign would probably be in my top 10. Depending on how strictly we're defining single-player-FPS-campaign.
Do things like Doom and Quake count as a 'campaign'?
Anyway, TF2 is almost like a modern Jedi Knight at times, and Jedi Knight is the best FPS campaign, so win.
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Post by wunty on Feb 7, 2023 14:13:37 GMT
...but not Daikatana levels of pish tho'... I really want to play that. Not even kidding. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 7, 2023 14:15:16 GMT
I think Doom and Quake (originals) are probably a bit too anachronistic to recommend to someone asking about single player FPS games in 2023, as much as I love them. More akin to levels in a platform game than a modern FPS campaign
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 7, 2023 14:16:36 GMT
...but not Daikatana levels of pish tho'... I really want to play that. Not even kidding. There's a fan patch that disables the side kicks and allows you to save at any time, if you decide to play it |
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Post by wunty on Feb 7, 2023 14:37:57 GMT
Can't. No PC and there's no OSX version. Pity. Unless there's a workaround?
Edit: A quick google suggests maybe but fuck doing all that faff.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 7, 2023 14:41:40 GMT
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Get a really cheap PC for Thief and then you can play Daikatana on that as a... bonus
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 7, 2023 14:44:24 GMT
...but not Daikatana levels of pish tho'... I really want to play that. Not even kidding. Wunty...stop it now!!! |
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Post by Frog on Feb 7, 2023 14:47:37 GMT
Daikatana is widely considered one of the shittiest big games ever.
And they aren't wrong.
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Post by wunty on Feb 7, 2023 14:49:34 GMT
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Get a really cheap PC for Thief and then you can play Daikatana on that as a... bonus I'm adamant I got Thief running on one of my old macs but don't know what one it was. Or was it an old laptop? I've eh, got a few lying around and I've no idea. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 7, 2023 14:50:16 GMT
wunty is the Midas of gaming though
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Post by wunty on Feb 7, 2023 14:51:32 GMT
I really want to play that. Not even kidding. Wunty...stop it now!!! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 7, 2023 14:53:23 GMT
I feel like Wunty has also been to Geefe's School for Character Creation.
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