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Oct 29, 2022 10:14:02 GMT
Post by JonFE on Oct 29, 2022 10:14:02 GMT
Thanks bichii
Repeating my question here, just in case: in my game, even though I've beaten the Guardian Ape and fake Corrupted Monk and visited the Wedding cave, Ashina Castle has not been invaded by those purple dudes; anyone knows exactly what triggers the invasion?
Edit: Google suggests I should also clear the Fountainhead Palace; can anyone confirm?
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Post by JuniorFE on Oct 29, 2022 10:59:07 GMT
Since this is bumped, can someone also confirm that having the Bell Demon item in the inventory (and the relevant mark under the health bar) basically means you're in New Game + in terms of enemy strength? Because if it does there's a good chance DadFE has been unknowingly busting his nuts (and winning!) against NG+ tier enemies since before a certain oversized, shit-throwing monkey, which... would make him a bigger badass than either of us ever knew, honestly
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 29, 2022 11:12:06 GMT
Double checked and he must have rung the bell to activate hard mode. You then get the bell demon item that can be used to deactivate the harder difficulty. So, if he has the bell demon item he is on the harder difficulty.
How that compares to NG+ though, seems some suggest it is harder, although can't see specifics. Even if it is the same, he would be doing it without all the unlocks that an NG+ character would have.
If he is also doing it charmless than he might actually be a god.
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Post by JuniorFE on Oct 29, 2022 11:26:09 GMT
Not charmless thankfully (he'd need to have finished the game for that, I think), but yeah, he's got it. And we'd never have known if we hadn't randomly decided to check if he had something else...
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Post by bichii2 on Oct 29, 2022 11:37:19 GMT
Ringing the bell is hard mode as mentioned. Mainly it makes your posture weaker and enemy boss posture higher so your parry game needs to be on point. There's a little icon next to your health bar if it is active.
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Post by JonFE on Oct 29, 2022 12:54:22 GMT
Apparently, as JuniorFE mentioned, at some unspecified point in the game I rang the bell, unknowingly (and annoyingly) that its effect lasts until manually deactivated; silly me!
...meaning that Guardian Ape and Corrupted Monk were certainly beaten under hard mode, as Genichiro could also be...
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Oct 29, 2022 22:31:27 GMT
Post by JonFE on Oct 29, 2022 22:31:27 GMT
Just to answer my own question, the reason Ashina Castle was not invaded by the purple dudes was that I had missed getting the white Lotus after defeating the Guardian Ape; I can only guess I was so happy and exhausted fighting the ape that I rested at its idol and closed the game without exploring the cave and the next time I played I forgot about it, the old fool
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Oct 30, 2022 0:04:31 GMT
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Post by bichii2 on Oct 30, 2022 0:04:31 GMT
Just to answer my own question, the reason Ashina Castle was not invaded by the purple dudes was that I had missed getting the white Lotus after defeating the Guardian Ape; I can only guess I was so happy and exhausted fighting the ape that I rested at its idol and closed the game without exploring the cave and the next time I played I forgot about it, the old fool Yeah so basically to any normal person when I asked if they beaten the ape yet I was correct! . It's not my fault you never walked 20m past the ape like 99.9% of players.
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Oct 30, 2022 0:06:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 0:06:00 GMT
why is there a second bichii? the first account seems... active still?
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Post by JonFE on Oct 30, 2022 9:01:14 GMT
bichii2 Of course you were right my friend, I'm just a silly old fool with goldfish memory! Come to think of it, I would never have beaten Elden Ring if JuniorFE were not around to point out where I should go or what I should do next!!!
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Nov 29, 2022 10:57:23 GMT
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Post by bichii2 on Nov 29, 2022 10:57:23 GMT
I'm still really struggling to enjoy my gaming and haven't turned on anything since Gow about a week ago. Thinking maybe I'll have to do another sekiro run!!! Just can't get the interest in starting any of the 10+ games installed that I've not tried yet.
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Nov 29, 2022 11:10:13 GMT
Post by wunty on Nov 29, 2022 11:10:13 GMT
Sekiro will blow the gaming cobwebs away. Did you ever do any of the boss rush stuff?
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Nov 29, 2022 13:11:54 GMT
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Post by bichii2 on Nov 29, 2022 13:11:54 GMT
Sekiro will blow the gaming cobwebs away. Did you ever do any of the boss rush stuff? Yeah had a few goes. Always died on the final special boss with the moves you couldn't block. Only perfect parries stopped it etc. I could definitely beat them but couldn't be bothered having to beat each other boss first and when I tried I just finished the game yet again so started some other game.
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Nov 29, 2022 13:34:42 GMT
Post by wunty on Nov 29, 2022 13:34:42 GMT
Yeah it's a bit beyond me tbh. Embarrassingly the boy always did better than me. He was able to nail Inner Genichiro and Inner Isshin and I couldn't even GET to them!
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Nov 29, 2022 17:14:38 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 29, 2022 17:14:38 GMT
Have you tried the lesser known Soulslike Spear of Destiny?
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Post by Tomo on Dec 29, 2022 23:50:38 GMT
I have started Sekiro this week. Enjoying it. Just been served my arse on a plate by a guy with a big spear. Got a new power up to jump on the spear or something, so need to git gud and figure out the timing etc.
It seems pretty stingy on the health potions compared to Elden Ring though. Take a few whacks from the minions and you're a bit fucked when it comes to any of the bigger nasties.
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Dec 30, 2022 0:03:31 GMT
Post by retro74 on Dec 30, 2022 0:03:31 GMT
I found it pretty tough at first but was playing it like Dark Souls - which was completely wrong
There are two very tough bosses though, one that’s sort of hidden/optional and the last boss
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Post by Tomo on Dec 31, 2022 1:01:22 GMT
Plugging away at this. Just smashed the big git on the horse. Probably had one hit left on my health so that was super satisfying getting him down.
Also smashed up spear boy. He was a tricky little prick.
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Post by Tomo on Jan 8, 2023 2:25:16 GMT
Absolutely ploughing through this... At about 20 hour mark. It's hard but it's doing that From thing of teaching me and I don't even quite realise it.
This evening I smashed the old bint in the burning temple flashback. Also whacked Seven Spears finally. He was an absolute c-bomb. But he really teaches you how imperative it is to learn Mikhiri.
I accidentally triggered a fight with Genchiro by climbing up the side of a building and got my arse served. But, I think it might actually be time to take him on... Eek.
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Jan 8, 2023 7:50:56 GMT
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 8, 2023 7:50:56 GMT
Absolutely ploughing through this... At about 20 hour mark. It's hard but it's doing that From thing of teaching me and I don't even quite realise it. This evening I smashed the old bint in the burning temple flashback. Also whacked Seven Spears finally. He was an absolute c-bomb. But he really teaches you how imperative it is to learn Mikhiri. I accidentally triggered a fight with Genchiro by climbing up the side of a building and got my arse served. But, I think it might actually be time to take him on... Eek. How did you find drunk fatty and the butterfly lady? I found them very difficult first run and Genichiro caused me so so much grief I avoided him until I exhausted all other routes. Good luck!!!!! X. The other day I started a no death run and much to my amusement a actually died to maybe the first group with a rifle. I was being so over confident I just went for some crazy air attack and got sniped mid air just before the death blow. . Still looks great on the x at 60fps and that slightly higher resolution (1400 I think).
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Jan 8, 2023 9:50:12 GMT
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Post by Tomo on Jan 8, 2023 9:50:12 GMT
I found the drunk guy okay tbh. Most annoying thing about him was having to clear out all the grunts each time before focussing on him.
Butterfly Lady was hard, but fair I think. I've explored a lot of areas before finally defeating her. When I did finally smash her, I only took a few hits, which tells me I just needed time to learn her patterns etc.
I definitely struggle most with any bosses that do sweep attacks. I rarely jump during fights, so tend to press dodge or attempt to Mikhiri and end up getting swept. Hence Seven Spears had me raging.
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Post by Tomo on Jan 8, 2023 10:04:21 GMT
Gotta say, the combat mechanics are possibly the best in any action game I've ever played.
To my knowledge, I can't remember a game based so heavily on parrying with such an emphasise on fast, brutal fights? It's like my dream has basically been realised of wanting a single player adventure based on PS1 Bushido Blade.
Seems really bold of From to develop a play style, which is so counter intuitive to all the things gamers have learned playing so many 3rd person games with smashing. You can't just spam combo attacks between holding block. Instead my eyes are laser focused on the tip of every enemy weapon.
I just hope it doesn't kick my arse too hard further down the line... Pray for me.
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Jan 8, 2023 11:17:46 GMT
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 8, 2023 11:17:46 GMT
Yeah for me sekiro has by far the best combat in a from game. It's close between this and BB for their best game. Nioh combat is also amazing but not quite as fun for me as sekiro, there are almost too many layers to it.
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Jan 8, 2023 12:14:18 GMT
Post by retro74 on Jan 8, 2023 12:14:18 GMT
Tomo you’ll be fine to the end if you’re doing ok now. It remains pretty consistent in terms of difficulty, with the exception of maybe two bosses
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Jan 8, 2023 12:31:07 GMT
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 8, 2023 12:31:07 GMT
THE FINAL BOSS! I have his number now but for my first two runs I had to do it the wunty way. Wait even though I've seen his name on this and eg a million times I'm now questioning how it's spelt.
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Post by Tomo on Jan 8, 2023 15:11:47 GMT
Genichiro done. Awesome boss that, albeit I just went ham on him and ignore the lightning stuff. I loved that basically there's not point in recovering your posture. Just deflect deflect deflect. Felt proper shinobi.
Also smashed two of the mad things with wolverine claws and committed genocide on a gathering of apes.
Thoroughly enjoyed Kuro querying how many times you've died and come back to life. "Two? Maybe three times?" glol absolute troll
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Post by Tomo on Jan 8, 2023 18:47:22 GMT
Ok giant Ape done. That was fun as well. Treated it much more like Elden Ring... Keep distance, chip away at health when opportunity arises. Did on third attempt but prob took me close to an hour lol. Interesting to see if you can posture break the fucker. How you block his massive swipes I'm not sure.
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Post by JonFE on Jan 8, 2023 20:00:36 GMT
Tomo I envy your skills mate! Took me years to finally beat Genichiro and then months to beat the Ape and you've done both in mere hours! KUDOS!!!
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Post by JuniorFE on Jan 8, 2023 20:13:30 GMT
JonFE With the slight concession that you had inadvertently triggered the kinda-sorta NG+ item in those fights, let's not forget... Not that it diminishes Tomo 's achievements at all, just don't downplay yours
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Jan 8, 2023 21:04:51 GMT
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Post by Phattso on Jan 8, 2023 21:04:51 GMT
Ape took me, no word of a lie, a week of banging my head against the fight. Probably what sunk the game for me in the end as I noped out of Owl Father not too long after and never went back.
I second the nod to the combat though. I vastly prefer Elden Ring, but Sekiro is proper class.
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