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Aug 19, 2021 21:30:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 21:30:54 GMT
I have begun. Hold me.
Actually doing not too bad. Nailed that first miniboss on the outskirts first time by actually deflecting.
I'm actually deflecting shit. Look at me go.
Got up to chained ogre but I'm pissing off to Hirata Estate first. Fun times await there.
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Aug 19, 2021 21:35:51 GMT
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Post by Danno on Aug 19, 2021 21:35:51 GMT
It'll be back on my shelf before you know it
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Aug 19, 2021 21:40:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 21:40:24 GMT
Oh ye of little faith.
Probably right though.
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Aug 19, 2021 22:03:25 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 19, 2021 22:03:25 GMT
I have begun. Hold me. Actually doing not too bad. Nailed that first miniboss on the outskirts first time by actually deflecting. I'm actually deflecting shit. Look at me go. Got up to chained ogre but I'm pissing off to Hirata Estate first. Fun times await there. You should be able to take him. Treat it like a Dark Souls fight and just chip away at him. Not sure if you can even parry him, never tried. Just watch out for his grab attack. The grab attacks in Sekiro are nasty! |
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Aug 19, 2021 22:25:48 GMT
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Post by Rodderz on Aug 19, 2021 22:25:48 GMT
That Chained Ogre was a nasty roadblock very early on in Sekiro. I'd wager a fair few people gave up at that very point after realising 'you're not in Lordran anymore, Dorothy'.
Anyway, what madness is this, Wunty is playing Sekiro again 😀!?
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Sekiro
Aug 20, 2021 7:38:27 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 7:38:27 GMT
That Chained Ogre was a nasty roadblock very early on in Sekiro. I'd wager a fair few people gave up at that very point after realising 'you're not in Lordran anymore, Dorothy'. Anyway, what madness is this, Wunty is playing Sekiro again 😀!? You can parry every attack except the grabs.. [br Wunty, stealth kill the first bar then set him on fire. After that it's crazy easy to just side step his drop kick etc then he always weak to two hits between combos. But yeah deflect everything and with the grab you can jump off the cliff then grapple back on him or the tree. |
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Aug 20, 2021 8:33:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 8:33:20 GMT
I am liking the silky 60fps though I must admit. Was just dicking around Hirata Estate for a short while this morning. Is the fire gourd worth getting with my carp scales? I can't remember if it makes much difference or not.
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Aug 20, 2021 8:34:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 8:34:53 GMT
Rodderz Yes I am. It's madness. I have no idea why. Worse still, I'm enjoying it. bichii Nice one I'll use my fire arm doodah on him when I get there. Ah yes I forgot I could get a stealth kill in first if I'm careful.
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Aug 20, 2021 8:46:31 GMT
Post by Duffking on Aug 20, 2021 8:46:31 GMT
I am liking the silky 60fps though I must admit. Was just dicking around Hirata Estate for a short while this morning. Is the fire gourd worth getting with my carp scales? I can't remember if it makes much difference or not. You might as well, there's very little actually worth spending them on until late game. |
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Aug 20, 2021 8:47:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 8:47:34 GMT
Yeah I thought as much. Need to wait til Fountainhead for the other pot noble don't I.
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Aug 20, 2021 10:02:38 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 10:02:38 GMT
I am liking the silky 60fps though I must admit. Was just dicking around Hirata Estate for a short while this morning. Is the fire gourd worth getting with my carp scales? I can't remember if it makes much difference or not. Don't bother with the fire one yet. Get the floating passage move off him. As far as the gourds are concerned buy the terror one as priority then after that the poison one. Throughout the game you'll be on fire hardly ever but you'll likely be poisoned and especially terror loads. Remember when ever you have spare money buy spirit emblems, as many as possible before you beat genichiro as then the cost goes up and again when you beat ape. Any other spare money buy coin purses and stock up for when you get to the seller of the terror and poison gourds. |
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Aug 20, 2021 10:16:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 10:16:26 GMT
Right you are. Although I don't have enough carp scales for floating passage yet are there more carp in the estate anywhere? There were a couple in the stream but they didn't drop scales and attacked me so I presume they weren't the same type.
I've been buying emblems and unlocked the mikiri counter and upgraded my stealth so far.
I've forgotten / blocked out so much.
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Aug 20, 2021 11:32:22 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 11:32:22 GMT
Right you are. Although I don't have enough carp scales for floating passage yet are there more carp in the estate anywhere? There were a couple in the stream but they didn't drop scales and attacked me so I presume they weren't the same type. I've been buying emblems and unlocked the mikiri counter and upgraded my stealth so far. I've forgotten / blocked out so much. Unlock the mikiri upgrade asap as well. Apart from that the priority is speaking to ishiin after defeating horse boss and getting his side mission to kill the rats then he gives you by far the best skill tree. The upgrades to parries and posture damage are so important to making life easier. As far as the fish you want to kill the pinky/white ones. The grey/pink ones do nothing. The pink white ones re spawn after maybe thirty seconds if they escape you. I think first time through the estate without underwater ability there are only 3 or 4 tops to find. |
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Aug 20, 2021 12:31:46 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 12:31:46 GMT
bichii What does the upgrade to the mikiri do again? I think I'm going to kill the shinobi hunter and the big drunk bastard in Hirata then head to the ogre and do him in, as well as the twat after him. Then back and kill Lady Butterfly I think. I'm in no hurry to fight her but I'm going to fight her properly, instead of cheese spamming her with one attack like I did last time. I remember I need to shuriken her out the sky and keep in her face the entire time.
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Aug 20, 2021 12:36:03 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 20, 2021 12:36:03 GMT
Right you are. Although I don't have enough carp scales for floating passage yet are there more carp in the estate anywhere? There were a couple in the stream but they didn't drop scales and attacked me so I presume they weren't the same type. I've been buying emblems and unlocked the mikiri counter and upgraded my stealth so far. I've forgotten / blocked out so much. Unlock the mikiri upgrade asap as well. Apart from that the priority is speaking to ishiin after defeating horse boss and getting his side mission to kill the rats then he gives you by far the best skill tree. The upgrades to parries and posture damage are so important to making life easier. Is that Ishiin? I had no idea. I hardly ever used the gourds or special attacks or anything like that. Doesn't the poison gourd actually poison you? That stopped me ever using that. I'm the same in Dark Souls - never use buffs, magic or infuse weapons. Your strats are too complex for me! Since you seem to know the game quite well, maybe you can explain how I managed to make the rampaging bull mini boss smash his own brains out on the wall at the Fountainhead Palace. It didn't seem like a glitch but I could never get it to happen again |
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Aug 20, 2021 13:03:31 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 13:03:31 GMT
bichii What does the upgrade to the mikiri do again? I think I'm going to kill the shinobi hunter and the big drunk bastard in Hirata then head to the ogre and do him in, as well as the twat after him. Then back and kill Lady Butterfly I think. I'm in no hurry to fight her but I'm going to fight her properly, instead of cheese spamming her with one attack like I did last time. I remember I need to shuriken her out the sky and keep in her face the entire time. All the upgrade does is just damage their posture even more than the regular version. Yeah shuriken out of the sky is a decent plan but not essential. You can easily just block them and rush her as soon as she lands. Definitely makes the fight easier though. On second phase you don't need to use snap seeds and you can just loop the arena and when they all turn into the magic missiles just stand against one of the corner pillars. You can use the snap seeds for other things like the phantom monk boss later. |
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Aug 20, 2021 13:06:09 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 13:06:09 GMT
Unlock the mikiri upgrade asap as well. Apart from that the priority is speaking to ishiin after defeating horse boss and getting his side mission to kill the rats then he gives you by far the best skill tree. The upgrades to parries and posture damage are so important to making life easier. Is that Ishiin? I had no idea. I hardly ever used the gourds or special attacks or anything like that. Doesn't the poison gourd actually poison you? That stopped me ever using that. I'm the same in Dark Souls - never use buffs, magic or infuse weapons. Your strats are too complex for me! Since you seem to know the game quite well, maybe you can explain how I managed to make the rampaging bull mini boss smash his own brains out on the wall at the Fountainhead Palace. It didn't seem like a glitch but I could never get it to happen again Yeah that's ishiin. When you talk to him in his house later look behind the dividing screen and his mask etc is hung on the wall. He sneaks out to deal with the spys and saboteurs (rats). The gourd very slightly poisons you but then it gives you poison resistance and instantly puts poison to zero. Especially good with terror fighting things like the headless. The headless will maybe put you up to 90% terror so you quickly drink the terror gourd and you goto pretty much 0. You can do that to the fire bull as well. If you time fire crackers just right the bull will panic and head butt the wall and go from 0 to full posture damage and fall over. |
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Aug 20, 2021 13:09:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 13:09:27 GMT
bichii Yeah I remember just legging it to avoid the phantoms.
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Aug 20, 2021 13:41:29 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 20, 2021 13:41:29 GMT
@wuntyate Can't remember the exact details (bichii can prob clarify) but it's possible to miss the second Ape boss if you play through the areas in a particular order (I didn't get it first time). You may or may not wish to ensure you still get that fight/avoid it
I think it's if you progress past that really annoying Snake Eyes mini boss at the poison area before defeating the first Ape boss
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Aug 20, 2021 14:07:10 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 14:07:10 GMT
@wuntyate Can't remember the exact details (bichii can prob clarify) but it's possible to miss the second Ape boss if you play through the areas in a particular order (I didn't get it first time). You may or may not wish to ensure you still get that fight/avoid it I think it's if you progress past that really annoying Snake Eyes mini boss at the poison area before defeating the first Ape boss Bad idea to skip the double ape fight. You get two prayer beads and another memory so well worth it. Plus with mortal draw and fire crackers the brown ape is dead in sub twenty seconds. She is also really weak to fire. Snake eyes in the poison area is really easy to kill by letting her get poisoned by chilling up high above the idol in the far corner. Takes a while but it's far better plan if someone is struggling against her. The snake eyes before gun fort is extremely weak to poison knives if people didn't already know. |
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Aug 20, 2021 14:20:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 14:20:55 GMT
I never actually had much trouble with the double ape fight for some reason, so I'm not bothered about doing it again. Neither of the snake eyes sub bosses either. One I seem to recall (the one near the swampy bit) you could get a stealth deathblow in first then it was more do-able.
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Aug 20, 2021 14:25:08 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 20, 2021 14:25:08 GMT
I actually did develop a strategy of sorts to deal with that Snake Eyes fight. I think it involed using the flame attack right in her face before she attacked. Still took forever. Had no idea about the poison trick but I'd be too proud to do that anyway
You should really give the no Kuro's Charm run a go. You're so familiar with the game and it really ups the challenge
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Aug 20, 2021 18:13:23 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 18:13:23 GMT
Beat Emma and ishiin earlier. Only second time I've done the Shira ending...I died more to those two than the entire two runs before them! Didn't know the moves and had to re learn everything. Both of them have moves that you have to perfectly deflect, both have moves that cover the whole arena when you try and heal, both have grab attacks that have a 3 mile range that takes off about 80% of health and both absolutely wreck posture even when deflect perfectly and both have high posture. Wasn't fun but done it now.
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Aug 20, 2021 20:16:38 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 20, 2021 20:16:38 GMT
Only 2 bosses I didn't do. After giving up on the no charm run at the monk (last boss I had left before the end game but my interest/patience was waning), I decided to do a normal run as a victory lap but you miss out on quite a lot of the end game with the Shura ending so went for one of the others instead. First ending I got was the Return ending and is my favourite one. Managed to get it without looking anything up too which was nice!
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Aug 20, 2021 20:24:23 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 20, 2021 20:24:23 GMT
Beat Emma and ishiin earlier. Only second time I've done the Shira ending...I died more to those two than the entire two runs before them! Didn't know the moves and had to re learn everything. Both of them have moves that you have to perfectly deflect, both have moves that cover the whole arena when you try and heal, both have grab attacks that have a 3 mile range that takes off about 80% of health and both absolutely wreck posture even when deflect perfectly and both have high posture. Wasn't fun but done it now. ...how many times have you finished it? |
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Aug 20, 2021 20:28:17 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 20:28:17 GMT
Beat Emma and ishiin earlier. Only second time I've done the Shira ending...I died more to those two than the entire two runs before them! Didn't know the moves and had to re learn everything. Both of them have moves that you have to perfectly deflect, both have moves that cover the whole arena when you try and heal, both have grab attacks that have a 3 mile range that takes off about 80% of health and both absolutely wreck posture even when deflect perfectly and both have high posture. Wasn't fun but done it now. ...how many times have you finished it? Probably ten times by now. My last run with the purification ending I died less than five times. |
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Aug 20, 2021 21:31:09 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 20, 2021 21:31:09 GMT
You'll turn into a Sekiro if you're not careful
The optional Demon boss at the end was probably the hardest point for me and where I died the most. Dodging those fireballs he throws at you was so hard. Was giddy when I managed to do it on my successful attempt - think he did it twice. Really cool boss
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Aug 20, 2021 22:02:57 GMT
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Post by Rodderz on Aug 20, 2021 22:02:57 GMT
Beat Emma and ishiin earlier. Only second time I've done the Shira ending...I died more to those two than the entire two runs before them! Didn't know the moves and had to re learn everything. Both of them have moves that you have to perfectly deflect, both have moves that cover the whole arena when you try and heal, both have grab attacks that have a 3 mile range that takes off about 80% of health and both absolutely wreck posture even when deflect perfectly and both have high posture. Wasn't fun but done it now. Oh god, you've reminded me where I left my second playthrough at now Bichii, and never went back to it. I remember that I managed to learn Emma's moves and was able to dispatch her fairly quickly, but that damn Isshin fight that follows wasted me every time. I think I got really close to winning on one occasion, then screwed up. Given there's a bit of activity on Sekiro at the moment, I might be tempted to fire this up over the weekend and take a gander again to see if I can make any inroads on those two again. Any tips for how you did this fight Bichii? Especially Isshin! I think this path eventually leads to the Owl father fight too, doesn't it? I've read that's no push over. |
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Aug 20, 2021 22:07:40 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 20, 2021 22:07:40 GMT
I think Owl Father is Purification ending
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Aug 20, 2021 22:25:28 GMT
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Post by bichii on Aug 20, 2021 22:25:28 GMT
Beat Emma and ishiin earlier. Only second time I've done the Shira ending...I died more to those two than the entire two runs before them! Didn't know the moves and had to re learn everything. Both of them have moves that you have to perfectly deflect, both have moves that cover the whole arena when you try and heal, both have grab attacks that have a 3 mile range that takes off about 80% of health and both absolutely wreck posture even when deflect perfectly and both have high posture. Wasn't fun but done it now. Oh god, you've reminded me where I left my second playthrough at now Bichii, and never went back to it. I remember that I managed to learn Emma's moves and was able to dispatch her fairly quickly, but that damn Isshin fight that follows wasted me every time. I think I got really close to winning on one occasion, then screwed up. Given there's a bit of activity on Sekiro at the moment, I might be tempted to fire this up over the weekend and take a gander again to see if I can make any inroads on those two again. Any tips for how you did this fight Bichii? Especially Isshin! I think this path eventually leads to the Owl father fight too, doesn't it? I've read that's no push over. Owl father fight is a totally different ending/path story wise. You can't fight Emma and ishiin and owl father. (I'm pretty sure anyways). Owl father is an epic fight. As far as isshin goes save all your emblems for his final phase. As soon as the final phase starts eat some red sugar then firecracker, mortal draw repeat until you run out of emblems. By that point he should be under half health and will have high posture damage. Then hopefully you can finish off the rest. His three main attacks in the final form are one where he arches his back then he unleashes fire in a straight line at you. This can be avoided by jumping left or right. Another he does like a animation like he is putting his sword away, he then does kind of a double flame sword attack that also sets fire to the ground in front. This you can quickly double dodge behind him and get free hits in. The main one has a few second charge wind up, you can stagger him out of this otherwise get back and you can see on the floor where there will be a fire explosion. Jump as the fire explodes then be ready to deflect his unblockable attack. Remember even with no emblem's left you can still mortal draw. It doesn't do as much damage but still damages plenty and generally staggers. Edit. Double ichimon is good on Emma after she finishes combos and especially straight after you mikiri counter her and whirlwind slash works well against isshin. |
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