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Post by Ulythium on May 25, 2022 8:35:47 GMT
That spineless, cretinous cunt Ted Cruz - senator for Texas, lest we forget - couldn't *wait* to come out against gun control laws yesterday, while lunatics like Marjorie Taylor Greene blame anything *but* guns and babble on about the need to return to medieval superstitions as a way of solving 21st century problems.
Nineteen kids and two adults dead.
Business as usual, I guess!
Fucking horrifying.
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Post by cubby on May 25, 2022 9:35:57 GMT
27 school shootings in the US so far this year. We're in week 21.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 25, 2022 9:45:55 GMT
Quick maths says we have 1 gun death per 1.8 million people. If we low ball that an average mass shooting kills 2 people in the US, based on those numbers, that's between 20-22 per week. That's over 1,000 people per year. Or, simply, a 9/11 every 3 years. I believe well over a million people have died to COVID in America due to inaction. I think life, well BORN life, means fuck all to America. |
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Post by Tuffty on May 25, 2022 10:31:19 GMT
Maybe if they rename mass shootings as 'late term abortions' they would do something about it.
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Post by Sarfrin on May 25, 2022 14:40:53 GMT
That spineless, cretinous cunt Ted Cruz - senator for Texas, lest we forget - couldn't *wait* to come out against gun control laws yesterday, while lunatics like Marjorie Taylor Greene blame anything *but* guns and babble on about the need to return to medieval superstitions as a way of solving 21st century problems. Nineteen kids and two adults dead. Business as usual, I guess! Fucking horrifying. I've actually seen someone on FB seriously suggest the solution is to sue school officials for failing to prevent the shooting. Mind you, our government wanted to make teachers criminally liable for failing to spot radicalisation so I guess we're not that different. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 25, 2022 15:26:43 GMT
Well you can sue an absolute stranger for having an abortion so it checks out.
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Post by damagedinc on May 25, 2022 17:44:48 GMT
Seriously must be getting to the point where schools are locked down like maternity Wards. Locked doors and "sterile" areas.
The sad fact is guns won't go away so more needs to be done to safeguard the kids. If I lived in America there is no way I would be sending my kids to school. No matter how small the odds.
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Post by beastmaster on May 25, 2022 17:48:55 GMT
There could be a massacre a week till the end of the year and nothing would get done.
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Post by Danno on May 25, 2022 17:53:06 GMT
How many people die in mass shootings per year? The Wikipedia articles on US gun deaths and mass shootings are pretty comprehensive.
The figures for Mass Shooting (Not the number of people who died in them)
US Mass Shootings
1982 - 2011 = 1 every 200 days.
2011 - 2014 = 1 every 64 days.
2019 = 417
2020 = 611 2021 = 693 (10 per week)
So far 2022 = 198 (11 per week) and counting (current death toll: 290)
The definition on what constitutes a mass shooting is not fixed though.
Remember, those are mass shootings.
By comparison there were 33 gun deaths in England and Wales in 2021
It's way over one a week already |
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Post by jono62 on May 25, 2022 18:18:42 GMT
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Post by dogbot on May 25, 2022 18:20:36 GMT
There could be a massacre a week till the end of the year and nothing would get done. What do you mean, "could be"? They already average more than one a day. |
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Post by X201 on May 25, 2022 18:22:42 GMT
The Wikipedia articles on US gun deaths and mass shootings are pretty comprehensive.
The figures for Mass Shooting (Not the number of people who died in them)
US Mass Shootings
1982 - 2011 = 1 every 200 days.
2011 - 2014 = 1 every 64 days.
2019 = 417
2020 = 611 2021 = 693 (10 per week)
So far 2022 = 198 (11 per week) and counting (current death toll: 290)
The definition on what constitutes a mass shooting is not fixed though.
Remember, those are mass shootings.
By comparison there were 33 gun deaths in England and Wales in 2021
It's way over one a week already What is? |
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Post by Danno on May 25, 2022 18:24:11 GMT
It's way over one a week already What is? I was replying to beastmaster's post above mine, apols for the failure to requote 'em at the same time |
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Post by JuniorFE on May 25, 2022 18:34:25 GMT
Saw a comment somewhere saying "America would rather try to stop schools than stop school shootings" and it's sad how accurate that is...
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Post by malek86 on May 25, 2022 18:34:39 GMT
Has there ever been any study on why gun shootings have become so much more common lately in the USA? I know they are all nuts over there, but things have got massively worse in the last ten years.
Was it just Sandy Hook making the idea popular, or the economic downturn, or social network right-wing recommendations getting all the nutjobs out of the woods? Or are there simply too many reasons to count?
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Post by Danno on May 25, 2022 18:42:42 GMT
Has there ever been any study on why gun shootings have become so much more common lately in the USA? I know they are all nuts over there, but things have got massively worse in the last ten years. Was it just Sandy Hook making the idea popular, or the economic downturn, or social network right-wing recommendations getting all the nutjobs out of the woods? Or are there simply too many reasons to count? All and more of the above. The polarisation is bonkers - as with much of society these days - and then they have easy access to weapons of easy mass murder as a catalyst. I imagine it's somewhat easier, mentally, to pull and hold a trigger than use a blade, not to mention easier to keep your distance from people picking up the nearest half brick, traffic cone or fallen branch to stop you. |
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Post by 😎 on May 25, 2022 18:45:08 GMT
Trump has announced he’s still going to speak at the NRA convention, and put the word massacre in quote marks when mentioning the shooting.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 25, 2022 18:52:56 GMT
Has there ever been any study on why gun shootings have become so much more common lately in the USA? I know they are all nuts over there, but things have got massively worse in the last ten years. Was it just Sandy Hook making the idea popular, or the economic downturn, or social network right-wing recommendations getting all the nutjobs out of the woods? Or are there simply too many reasons to count? All and more of the above. The polarisation is bonkers - as with much of society these days - and then they have easy access to weapons of easy mass murder as a catalyst. I imagine it's somewhat easier, mentally, to pull and hold a trigger than use a blade, not to mention easier to keep your distance from people picking up the nearest half brick, traffic cone or fallen branch to stop you. The biggest elephant in the room is why are they predominantly white and male? |
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Post by Danno on May 25, 2022 18:54:24 GMT
All and more of the above. The polarisation is bonkers - as with much of society these days - and then they have easy access to weapons of easy mass murder as a catalyst. I imagine it's somewhat easier, mentally, to pull and hold a trigger than use a blade, not to mention easier to keep your distance from people picking up the nearest half brick, traffic cone or fallen branch to stop you. The biggest elephant in the room is why are they predominantly white and male? Trying to get themselves replaced in a hail of police gunfire to prove a point or something? |
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Post by Zomoniac on May 25, 2022 18:56:50 GMT
The freedom to shoot children is what makes America great. They’re just being true patriots.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 25, 2022 18:58:07 GMT
I really don't know, it feels like a bit of racism, a dash of toxic masculinity, some misogyny thrown in and a pinch of being bullied and not having the social or communication skills or emotional intelligence to address their issues in a constructive manner and when they get a gun they're the one with the power.
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Post by X201 on May 25, 2022 19:40:39 GMT
I was replying to beastmaster's post above mine, apols for the failure to requote 'em at the same time No problem. I thought you were having a SpecSavers moment 😀 |
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Post by Danno on May 25, 2022 19:43:25 GMT
I was replying to beastmaster's post above mine, apols for the failure to requote 'em at the same time No problem. I thought you were having a SpecSavers moment 😀 I'm more prone to Dignitas moments these days |
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Post by Sarfrin on May 25, 2022 20:34:03 GMT
I really don't know, it feels like a bit of racism, a dash of toxic masculinity, some misogyny thrown in and a pinch of being bullied and not having the social or communication skills or emotional intelligence to address their issues in a constructive manner and when they get a gun they're the one with the power. I think there's a strong undercurrent of white supremacism on the American right at the moment. Not even an undercurrent really. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 25, 2022 20:36:19 GMT
It's a torrent.
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Post by technoish on May 25, 2022 20:37:58 GMT
"at the moment"?!
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Post by 😎 on May 25, 2022 20:38:14 GMT
The Onion homepage is quite something right now.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 25, 2022 20:42:12 GMT
The Onion homepage is quite something right now. I was wondering want they'd do with that particular article. Poignant. |
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Post by dogbot on May 25, 2022 20:56:05 GMT
That's powerful and saddening, tbh.
Shame it'll go over the heads of anyone who matters.
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Post by X201 on May 25, 2022 22:07:35 GMT
21 times. One for each death.
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