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Post by Frog on Jun 29, 2022 6:15:39 GMT
Phattso, stop abusing Ron you horrible bastard.
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Post by Phattso on Jun 29, 2022 7:26:12 GMT
He had it comin’! Childhood ruining pest of a man.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 7:35:14 GMT
That looks fucking terrible.
I know I will buy day one and love the game but fuck I hate that art style.
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Post by nazo on Jun 29, 2022 7:50:01 GMT
At least it sounds good, even if it does look like arse.
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Post by Duffking on Jun 29, 2022 9:01:47 GMT
If you visit the website, if the "scroll down" bit here is representitive I think it might look nicer in play. returntomonkeyisland.com/
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Post by EMarkM on Jun 29, 2022 9:04:13 GMT
I stopped minding the graphics the moment that divine music kicked in.
Hang on a min: I think the hay fever’s getting to my eyes a bit…
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Post by Phattso on Jun 29, 2022 10:00:49 GMT
Yeah, it'll be the music that salvages it for me. Everything else leaves my whelm very underfed right now. I'm not even that big a fan of the voice work - my memories are all from text.
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Post by britesparc on Jun 29, 2022 10:27:37 GMT
Just watched the trailer. I can see what you mean about the art style. I actually think the backgrounds look excellent, but I'm not sold on the characters yet; it's the animation as much as it is the look of them, tbh. It's not really my cup of tea.
Having said that, I've never liked the look of the games post-LeChuck's Revenge. I always thought they went too far with the cartoony style, perhaps because I thought the first two games would have looked photoreal if technology had allowed, but then in part 3 they went totally the other way and made a Disney movie. I've never been able to get over that and it's one of the reasons I can't love any of the games apart from the first two.
So with this one, at least it's intentionally stylised. I'd rather it looked like this than Curse/Escape/Special Editions, and I'd rather they did something other than a pixel art recreation of the look of the first two. So I'm gonna go along with it, and I bet after five minutes I'm totally sold, because at the end of the day I just want to play a Ron Gilbert Monkey Island game.
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Post by Phattso on Jun 29, 2022 10:30:23 GMT
Yeah, that probably encapsulates my feelings. I remember firing up the third one (on CD-ROM!) and wonder WTF they'd done to my beloved Monkey Island.
Aesthetic aside, it's the characters, the encounters, and the puzzles that matter. As you say: Ron Gilbert. I'm all the way in, even if I'm going to gripe and moan the whole fucking time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 15:05:21 GMT
Yeah, I like the art style but the animations look a bit ropey. It's like everything is stuttering.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Jun 29, 2022 15:39:42 GMT
Weird thing is, you don’t see anyone talking in this trailer. Even the character 45 seconds in has a strategically placed sword to cover her mouth. I think they haven’t synced the animation to the VO yet. I bet if we see 30 seconds of actual dialogue most of us would be sold. It’s a weird trailer.
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Post by Lurker on Jun 29, 2022 15:44:26 GMT
I like the art, it's quite expressive. Guybrush is more in keeping with the first 2 rather than the lanky version used in Curse. Although to be honest, Ron could draw stick men with his own shit, scan it and I'd still buy the game!
The trailer doesn't give much away but I notice in the recap at the start there's a scene from Tales with Morgan, so I assume we'll have a time skip once we're done in the carnival.
I'll definitely pick this up day 1 and probably not have time to play it for a year!
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Post by deekyfun on Jun 29, 2022 17:08:42 GMT
I think I'm okay with it. It looks quite nice to me, although I do think it veers a little bit towards 'tech marketing clipart' by way of mural-wall art, a bit like a pirate version of those graphics you see in corporate e-learning. I think my biggest nit-pick was that I thought Guybrush's walk looked a bit weird. Like he walked very low to the ground, like a crab-man.
I'm just happy I'll get to play another Monkey Island, really.
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Post by Youthist on Jun 29, 2022 17:10:24 GMT
I think I'm okay with it. It looks quite nice to me, although I do think it veers a little bit towards 'tech marketing clipart' by way of mural-wall art, a bit like a pirate version of those graphics you see in corporate e-learning. I think my biggest nit-pick was that I thought Guybrush's walk looked a bit weird. Like he walked very low to the ground, like a crab-man. I'm just happy I'll get to play another Monkey Island, really. You had to watch the weird Kings Quest and Cruise For Corpse walks for endless hours recently so you will be ok I think!
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Post by deekyfun on Jun 29, 2022 17:15:20 GMT
That is true. Raoul walks like a man moonwalking forwards.
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Post by snackplissken on Jun 30, 2022 8:06:51 GMT
It'll be the last Monkey Island because Phattso abused Ron, so he won't make another.
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Post by Phattso on Jun 30, 2022 12:11:16 GMT
I'd do it again. Next time I'll target his family and friends too. Low-res pixels or GTFO, Grandad.
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Post by Lurker on Jun 30, 2022 12:32:09 GMT
It looks like Ron closed down his blog and other websites from what I can gather looking at Reddit. He's no longer going to share any details because the joy has been driven from him because of the constant abuse.
What a sad world we live in, I'd assume most Monkey fans are 40+ and to behave like that boggles the mind, some people seem to live in a constant state of pure hatred and anger. I guess this means no more Monkey ever again as this will surely leave a sour taste in Ron and teams mouth.
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Post by cubby on Jun 30, 2022 12:40:17 GMT
He was doing all of it for us, because he knew that we needed it more than ever, and we pissed in his face.
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Post by Phattso on Jun 30, 2022 12:44:47 GMT
He should just come up with a pixel shader that scans a frame and converts it into chunky pixels so it looks like the originals. He can call it fuckwit mode and have it off by default. Problem solved.
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Post by mikew1985 on Jun 30, 2022 14:39:42 GMT
I cannot believe there was a kerfuffle about that art style, it's totally fine.
It's very evocative of curse imo with a lot more style. It's just different to the first two but I had no expectation that it would be pixel art prior to this. Internet nerds are just the worst. The lack of self awareness and detachment from reality never ceases to amaze.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 30, 2022 16:32:24 GMT
I dislike the art so much I'll be skipping it, as that's Ron's choice fine but it's not for me.
I will still have the memories of swapping disks on my Amiga on the first one to look back on.
I was very glad I had a hard drive when the second game came out.
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Post by deekyfun on Jun 30, 2022 16:48:20 GMT
I wonder how many people sending him abuse actually care about Monkey Island games at all, or whether they're just jumping in because sewing discord is the only way they can experience any feeling in their shrivelled joyless mind-slongs.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 30, 2022 17:20:13 GMT
I’ve seen some of the abuse and it’s idiotic. Some banging on about hoping it’s not some liberal woke game, others are just abusive.
Don’t like how some games you want like then that’s fine but telling the guy to scrap it and that he should be ashamed of himself instead of just being disappointed and moving on is one the terrible things about the internet.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 30, 2022 18:13:22 GMT
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Post by deekyfun on Jun 30, 2022 18:14:36 GMT
That headline makes it sound like Ron Gilbert went to Monkey Island, but is reluctant to talk about it?
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Post by malek86 on Jun 30, 2022 18:21:03 GMT
That headline makes it sound like Ron Gilbert went to Monkey Island, but is reluctant to talk about it? Well, if there's anyone who knows the Secret of Monkey Island™, it's probably him.
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 30, 2022 18:34:00 GMT
Thought it looked pretty good. Yes, it looks different, but it is still distinctively Monkey Island. I'm sure you could instantly tell what it is from a random scene. Also thought in motion it looked even better.
(Caveat, I only saw the trailer on my phone, so maybe the animation doesn't look as good on a bigger screen)
If people don't like it, then fine, but anyone that is causing an industry veteran to feel the need to hide themselves away can fuck right off.
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Post by jimnastics on Jul 1, 2022 6:40:07 GMT
Weird thing is, you don’t see anyone talking in this trailer. Even the character 45 seconds in has a strategically placed sword to cover her mouth. I think they haven’t synced the animation to the VO yet. I bet if we see 30 seconds of actual dialogue most of us would be sold. It’s a weird trailer. Yep exactly what I thought when I watched it... just seeing Guybrush talk with that distinctive voice I think would have eased a lot of concerns. I appreciate you hear him at the start, but they should have shown him talking to help people tie his voice to the new art style / animation in their psyche. Even if you do a "brb, using imagination" on it right now, it helps.
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Post by Lurker on Jul 1, 2022 8:48:39 GMT
Every article I've clicked on is fixated on the graphics and nothing else, I was hoping to read about other aspects of the game. It's not like adventure games have always been known for state-of-the-art looks.
It's quite tiresome reading the same shit. I can't imagine repeatedly clicking on things I don't like, hurling abuse and ranting about the same thing over and over again.
Do people really play point and click games for the graphics & animation anyway? It's surely always been about the puzzles and story? I guess I've got low standards!
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