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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 24, 2024 7:30:33 GMT
It’ll be all DIY pedals which are true bypass, but I’ll look that up ta, might be able to find a schematic for it 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 19:09:51 GMT
mothercruncher I definitely don’t want to risk teaching a granny to suck eggs here as you clearly know (and build) your stuff, but I do think it’s one where it would be worth doing the reading and if possible, trying one out before spending time and money on it. I sometimes think the buffer thing can be a bit snake oily - every amp has a treble knob that can be turned up. But yeah fuzz doesn’t want a buffered signal so downstream of that. Could you find a guitar shop that stocks a buffer pedal to try, just whiz down with your board and put it somewhere on it? Of course if you can build the thing for a tenner or something it may be a moot point. In other news, as a basic home use looper I really do think this MXR is great. The sound quality/reproduction is audibly better than my old Boss and having two buttons on such a small footprint is great. Recommended!
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 24, 2024 21:09:48 GMT
Thanks man and totally agree, God, SO much snake oil in guitar pedals. Lovepedal’s entire business is based on the Electra circuit and changing one or two components and coming out with a BRAND NEW AMAZING PEDAL. The Vemuran guy should be locked up. I’ll make one and can piss about with position- enclosure £4, components £4, paint… 37p?  I’m not nearly dexterous enough to time a looper 😬 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 21:30:11 GMT
I play soul stuff in my band and dad rock/blues at home. So I picked Whole Lotta Love to demo it. Could not for the life of me get it right at first - but the trick there is to play the pickup bit of the riff, hit the loop when you get to the E chord, and end the loop after the next pick-up bit. Basically finding the strong ‘1’ beat and start the loop whilst you’re playing, not the other way around.
As another example, can you picture ‘Higher and Higher’ by Jackie Wilson (Ghostbusters 2 Statue of Liberty scene). That is also basically a pick up phrase and then grooving on a D note - you’d start your loop on the D, which is actually the 1. We had a bass player that struggled with that concept, not realising that the pick-up was the end of the measure, not the beginning.
Hope that makes sense!
Oh, and (edit) yeah that sounds like the price point where if it’s your hobby just go for it!
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 24, 2024 21:33:29 GMT
What power supply have you got that’ll cater to that many pedals?
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 24, 2024 21:36:55 GMT
That’s bent my brain but I’ll listen to the songs and ponder on it, thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 22:18:39 GMT
That’s bent my brain but I’ll listen to the songs and ponder on it, thanks! You know Whole Lotta Love right? By the ‘pick-up’ I mean phonetically WAH-NAR, NAH-NAH Then there’s just a chug on on an e chord You’d play WAH-NAR, NAH-NAH (click) chug on E chord 😂 Then after you play WAH-NAR, NAH-NAH a second time, click where you’d come back to the E-chord, stop playing and let the loop play on. Regards the power supply, Fender Engine Room Level 12. It’s a unit. The tech has come on leaps and bounds since Voodoo Labs ruled the roost and there’s loads more choice. The wah pedal is piggy backed off the tuner (which has a 9V out) but everything else has an isolated supply. It also has USB out for charging phones, pads, or in my case often E-Cigs! |
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jan 25, 2024 0:05:14 GMT
it arrived two days early. Board now weighs a ton! Have had to play Tetris to get the layout to work but basically the flow of the chain is tuner in > wah and then all the way to the Univibe. That then feeds under the board into the Tumnus and then it works left to the Echoplex, which then patches under the board into the looper at the bottom left > amp. Frustratingly I don’t have any spare power leads for the supply underneath (Fender Engine Room) so I’ve ordered a pack from Donner from Amazon. Have also run out of the fuzzy side of my Velcro and ideally need a patch of that top left as the compressor and delay are only half way Velcro’d and wobble. The tuner at the same height opposite has a vertical strip of the loop tape underneath it so that’s really secure. Have tested the looper very briefly on a lunch break using the bundled supply but it has one of those dead thin ribbon-y leads that will break so I’m just going to wait for the convenience of having it wired properly to the board. No complaints with it so far.  Wowser, love it. How's the Tumnus Deluxe? I've never had a Klon / Klone (though I'd love to get hold of and assemble that JHS Notaklön if supply ever outstrips demand). Looks like you've got it set to mid-lowish gain? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 7:54:38 GMT
FlexibleFelineIt’s superb but expensive. Wampler is my favourite brand and if I could afford a board of them I would. I first got into this Klon thing with the EHX Soul Food, which is a decent pedal at a reasonable price, but the Wampler does have that 10 per cent sweeter sound thing you get when you splash out on the upgrade. I don’t generally use it with that much gain, the knobs will have been moved when I was re-wiring the board. Generally I have the gain around 7-8 o’clock, and I use it as a mostly always-on thing so I can run my Fender amp at an OK volume but still have a ‘pushed/edge of break up/tiny bit of hair but still pretty clean’ tone. In this context it’s usually set at about unity volume. I’m in a soul band* which is big - there’s keyboards and three horns to contend with in the middle frequency range, and it also helps a lot with cut in the mix. It does that very well whilst still maintaining the tone of the amp. For years I used a TS9 to do the same thing but they do a worse job of keeping your amp’s character, IMO. In the band context if I want dirtier than that I add a touch of the EP Booster and then I’ll use the Spark Mini to boost that if I need a volume lift for an occasional solo (that truly is very transparent). For any rock stuff at home the Plexidrive tends to take the place of the Klon. If you have a Fender amp and want Marshall character that pedal is a thorough recommend. *For now, but that’s a story for another thread, if I can ever be arsed!
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jan 25, 2024 8:25:22 GMT
Cheers, that all makes total sense. I was wondering what the white pedal next to EP booster was, I assumed it was some form of home made booster. Once you mentioned the Spark Mini I could actually see the gold decal (I think  ). Wampler are ace. I think Brian Wampler is one of these builders - I hesitate to call them boutique at this point - who has a really good nose for marketing, quite apart from the quality of the pedals (like Josh from JHS....I'm an absolute sucker for both their pedals and their videos). I've only ever had one, though, and it's still on my board, the Ego Compressor (the OV large one, not the mini like yours) - I can't get rid of it, it's wonderful, especially flexibility the blend knob affords. You know you're being a bit wanky when you're waxing lyrical about a compressor... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 8:32:05 GMT
Nar, compressors are ace when done/used correctly. One of those pedals you can’t explain, you just have to use.
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Post by clemfandango on Jan 25, 2024 8:32:45 GMT
it arrived two days early. Board now weighs a ton! Have had to play Tetris to get the layout to work but basically the flow of the chain is tuner in > wah and then all the way to the Univibe. That then feeds under the board into the Tumnus and then it works left to the Echoplex, which then patches under the board into the looper at the bottom left > amp. Frustratingly I don’t have any spare power leads for the supply underneath (Fender Engine Room) so I’ve ordered a pack from Donner from Amazon. Have also run out of the fuzzy side of my Velcro and ideally need a patch of that top left as the compressor and delay are only half way Velcro’d and wobble. The tuner at the same height opposite has a vertical strip of the loop tape underneath it so that’s really secure. Have tested the looper very briefly on a lunch break using the bundled supply but it has one of those dead thin ribbon-y leads that will break so I’m just going to wait for the convenience of having it wired properly to the board. No complaints with it so far. Wowser, love it. How's the Tumnus Deluxe? I've never had a Klon / Klone (though I'd love to get hold of and assemble that JHS Notaklön if supply ever outstrips demand). Looks like you've got it set to mid-lowish gain? That really makes my ‘pedal board’ of a 1980s Ibanez tube screamer and cry baby look shite 😂 |
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jan 25, 2024 8:37:24 GMT
Wowser, love it. How's the Tumnus Deluxe? I've never had a Klon / Klone (though I'd love to get hold of and assemble that JHS Notaklön if supply ever outstrips demand). Looks like you've got it set to mid-lowish gain? That really makes my ‘pedal board’ of a 1980s Ibanez tube screamer and cry baby look shite 😂 Remember: tone is in the fingers. Spoiler: it's also in the pickups, tone pots, strings, neck, body, cables, buffers, pedals, pre-amp and speaker. And the PA. And room acoustics. (Sorry, I loathe the above saying even though I obviously get the point it's trying to make). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 8:38:38 GMT
clemfandangoYou can probably play better than me though. 808 or TS9? Might be worth a penny or two that.
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Post by clemfandango on Jan 25, 2024 8:42:52 GMT
Mid 80s ts9, my dad gave it me.
I’ve always used it for solos to cut through the mix.
I experimented with pedals when I was younger but around the mid 90s I realised I’m too lazy and just stuck with the ts9 and cry baby and a good valve amp. Not used anything else since 😊
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jan 25, 2024 8:46:48 GMT
I think if you are free of the curse of gassing, chasing, flipping gear (repeat ad infinitum) then that's a pretty good situation to be in. I wish I was.
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Post by clemfandango on Jan 25, 2024 10:27:02 GMT
I think if you are free of the curse of gassing, chasing, flipping gear (repeat ad infinitum) then that's a pretty good situation to be in. I wish I was. I seem to go in cycles with this about every 5 years I start to accumulate more guitars and flip for a couple of years then settle down for a while then start again. I've just got a Les Paul, Strat and Gretsch now, seems to cover most bases... Yet I am on ebay at the moment looking at Teles :-) |
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jan 25, 2024 10:48:18 GMT
Oh, good luck resisting the lure of a Tele My favourite and most-played guitar is a Classic Series '72 Telecaster Deluxe, which I've had since 2009. I'm not very good (I know people say that all the time but it's true in my case) and the best thing I can say about that guitar is that it makes me feel like a better player than I am, if that makes any sense. So damn playable. Like crack to Super Hans...it's a bit moreish. |
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 25, 2024 10:54:42 GMT
Teles are somehow more than the sum of their (basic) parts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 13:37:07 GMT
Yeah, the dark circuit thing in the originals is crap but with modern wiring you get the bluesy/stratty neck pickup, a perfectly balanced rhythm tone in the middle, and the brash/twang/KRANG thing at the bridge*.
They are much better than Strats at sounding like a RAWK guitar because of that bridge pickup.
They are built like tanks (of the Soviet variety) and don’t tend to go out of tune.
Cool shape too. Upper fret access is fine. The size is just right and seated, they are unobtrusive. The best overall guitar.
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Post by clemfandango on Jan 25, 2024 15:33:09 GMT
Yeah, the dark circuit thing in the originals is crap but with modern wiring you get the bluesy/stratty neck pickup, a perfectly balanced rhythm tone in the middle, and the brash/twang/KRANG thing at the bridge*. They are much better than Strats at sounding like a RAWK guitar because of that bridge pickup. They are built like tanks (of the Soviet variety) and don’t tend to go out of tune. Cool shape too. Upper fret access is fine. The size is just right and seated, they are unobtrusive. The best overall guitar. Its almost like Fender perfected the solid body electric with their first guitar |
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 25, 2024 19:33:18 GMT
Definitely! They’re basic, just bolted together, nothing clever about the shapes or the design or the components and yet they just sit balanced against you and play so well. There’s a million guitars out there with thru necks, slick woods, finishes, fancy electrics and whatnot but this no nonsense guitar rules them all and has probably covered more types of music than any other.
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Post by A46Matt on Jan 27, 2024 19:36:14 GMT
Speaking of Tele’s, anyone had any experience with a thin line? I keep eyeing up the JA-90 (Jim Adkin’s sig model) but have no experience with Fender having always played Epiphones.
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Post by elstoof on Jan 27, 2024 21:27:28 GMT
I have a thinline, they’re not a whole lot different to regular teles just lighter. The f hole and chambering doesn’t add or subtract a whole lot. They often come with different pickup configurations though, more so that usual teles. Saying that, I’m not really into them despite having 2. Don’t really get on with bolt on necks or 25.5” scale so my fenders just collect dust for the most part
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Post by elstoof on Feb 4, 2024 9:09:20 GMT
That JA-90, it’s a Gibson scale fretboard I think? With that and the tune o magic bridge, it’ll feel more like a Gibson than a Fender
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Post by A46Matt on Feb 4, 2024 16:53:03 GMT
Yeah the similarity in neck to what I’m used to is a big plus point, I’ve only played Epiphones for the last 20+ years. (Didn’t have Gibson money)
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Post by elstoof on Mar 8, 2024 9:40:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2024 18:38:09 GMT
Does it djent etc etc
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Post by elstoof on Mar 8, 2024 18:48:02 GMT
More than I do! I really like the fact it’s a pretty trad guitar at first glance with the body shape and wanky birds. Then you notice the 7 and a 20” fretboard, can’t figure out wtf I’m supposed to do with it. Pickups are amazing though
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2024 19:08:14 GMT
I’d just play Blind or Self Bias Resistor 😂
They were originally made for extended range in soloing weren’t they if you can shred much (blooze dad here so see above!)
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